All-22 look on DMac's long TD run

[teegre]

Originally Posted by Edman

First and foremost, if there was ever a reason to believe Hampton and Keisel need to see the bench, this is it. Surprised to see no one comment how ineffective they are.

Are you being facetious??? There are like three threads about them...

In case you missed it... here is the concensus take:

1. Casey the Hutt has sucked for four years. no one can believe he even made the roster, let alone given the starting job.

2. Keisel fell off a cliff. Great, then good, and now (lost).

3. Start Heyward; he's good. Start McClendon; he can't be any worse.

[lipps83]

Originally Posted by Edman

Timmons was pretty good in 2009 and 2010. That's why I'm not getting too low on the guy. He has the stuff and has shown it.

First and foremost, if there was ever a reason to believe Hampton and Keisel need to see the bench, this is it. Surprised to see no one comment how ineffective they are. Once again, this is all on Dickard and Mitchell hating production out of our Young D-Line.

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Ziggy Hood was a beast near the end of 2010. How was he rewarded? He was benched for the opening games of 2011 for a aging and decrepit Aaron Smith as we endured embarrassments in Baltimore and Houston.

Cam Heyward got a sack in the Jets game to close the game out. How was he rewarded? He got only Five Snaps in Oakland while we watched Keisel get thrown around for Four Quarters.

Steve McClendon is a beast in Training Camp and had a beastly preseason. His reward? Riding the bench while we watch Casey the Hutt flubber and flail in our 15th Ranked Run Defense.

This is it right here. There is an over-commitment to veteran players that can no longer play. Our younger players lose real game experience for this.

The reason?

Dick's defense is too hard to figure out? I actually think this is B.S. but I think that is what is stated because they really don't like to play younger guys for a year or two or three or four or five.

I think Heyward can play, but we won't really know until he 'learns' the defense around year 6.

[jb500ex]

Timmons had a good first seven games in 2010 then was horrible after that if you watch film and don't look at stats. One of the worst signings this franchise has ever made giving him the extension

[Edman]

Figuring out Dickard's Defense is simple...

If you're a D-Lineman, we don't want production out of you. We want you to stand around and be a titty-fighting fat piece of shit. Heyward and McClendon aren't inclined to be fat pieces of shit yet, so they ride the pine.

Ziggy Hood was a beast, but he wasn't a fat piece of shit. So we bench him and neuter him, now we get upset at Hood because his production is gone. No, the blame is on Dickard and Mitchell for neutering him.

[Riddle_Of_Steel]

Perhaps we are the fools for thinking that two guys on the wrong side of 30, with surgically repaired knees, following torn ACLs less than a year ago would deliver Probowl caliber play on the field?

[StainlessStill]

2 big splash plays killed us. Both audibles at the line of scrimmage with our defense showing their hand (how many TIMES did Palmer use his hard-count to make us show our Joker? Undisciplined.)

The big splash play in Denver was Thomas's 71 yard WR screen for a TD, and the other was McFadden's 64 yard jaunt. Killed us. It's Tomlin always talking about creating our own splash plays. We got bit this time twice. Result? 1-2.

Got to fix it.

[Lizard72]

Originally Posted by lipps83

This is it right here. There is an over-commitment to veteran players that can no longer play. Our younger players lose real game experience for this.

The reason?

Dick's defense is too hard to figure out? I actually think this is B.S. but I think that is what is stated because they really don't like to play younger guys for a year or two or three or four or five.

I think Heyward can play, but we won't really know until he 'learns' the defense around year 6.

With the way contracts are structured and limited bench size...they don't have the luxury of sitting a guy for 2-3 years anymore.