Why register with the Steelers Fever Forums?
 • Intelligent and friendly discussions.
 • It's free and it's quick. Always.
 • Enter events in the forums calendar.
 • Very user friendly software.
 • Exclusive contests and giveaways.

 Donate to Steelers Fever, Click here
 Our 2014 Goal: $450.00 - To Date: $450.00 (100.00%)
 Home | Forums | Editorials | Shop | Tickets | Downloads | Contact Pittsburgh Steelers Forum Feed Not Just Fans. Hardcore Fans.

Go Back   Steelers Fever Forums > Steelers Football > Pittsburgh Steelers


Steelers Fever Fan Shop

Doc's Sports Get FREE NFL Picks and College Football picks as well as Football Lines like live NFL Lines and updated NFL Power Rankings all at Doc's Sports Service.

Steelers

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-19-2012, 08:00 AM   #1
maddog78
Assistant Coach
 
maddog78's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,108
Member Number: 24321
Thanks: 48
Thanked 303 Times in 175 Posts
Default What constitutes an illegal chop block?

Remember the 2011 opener when Baltimore was cutting our DL every play, much to Hampton's (and the fans') chagrin? There was a big curfuffle about it, only to have the league come out and say that if the OL next to the engaged OL cuts the DL, it's okey dokey, and that the Steelers would do well to shut their collective traps?

Fast forward to last night. Last offensive play of the game for Seattle, the RT is engaged with Aldon Smith when the RG chops Smith down.

Flag, chop block in the EZ, safety for SF. The announcers all agreed with the call. Not a peep about the "linemen next to the engaged linemen" nonsense we heard after the Baltimore game.

Did they just make up that rule on the fly when the Steelers complained, and forget to write it down?

maddog78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2012, 08:12 AM   #2
teegre
Living Legend
Supporter
 
teegre's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 16,247
Member Number: 24108
Thanks: 24,141
Thanked 25,539 Times in 10,361 Posts
My Mood: Dead
Default Re: What constitutes an illegal chop block?

I was wondering the same thing. Here is what I thought:
if BALT did indeed have an OL engaged w/ a Steeler, and another player blocks him below the knees: chop block.

Up high: no chop block.

But, I recall some (BS) explanation, after that game, about two OL side-by-side "can indeed" chop block...

Two inquiring minds want to know. [El-Gonzo, I'm sure that you know...]
teegre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2012, 08:35 AM   #3
Darkstorm05
Team Captain
 
Darkstorm05's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 829
Gender: Male
Member Number: 19897
Thanks: 7
Thanked 69 Times in 46 Posts
Default Re: What constitutes an illegal chop block?

According to the NFL rulebook, it's a chop block if the lineman were lined up more than 1 spot apart. So, for example, if the center is engaged with a defender, and a guard hits the guy, it's cool. If, however, one of the tackles comes in and hits the same defender below the line, it's a chop block.
Darkstorm05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2012, 09:09 AM   #4
harrison'samonster
Living Legend
 
harrison'samonster's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Youngstown, OH
Posts: 8,335
Gender: Male
Member Number: 17630
Thanks: 67,630
Thanked 11,402 Times in 4,548 Posts
My Mood: Tired
Default Re: What constitutes an illegal chop block?

sounds like a load of bs to me. If their concerned about safety it shouldn't matter how far apart the linemen are lined up.
__________________
[QUOTE=Steelstoned1972;1430728
So second of all there is no second of all !
[/QUOTE]
harrison'samonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2012, 09:29 AM   #5
maddog78
Assistant Coach
 
maddog78's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,108
Member Number: 24321
Thanks: 48
Thanked 303 Times in 175 Posts
Default Re: What constitutes an illegal chop block?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstorm05 View Post
According to the NFL rulebook, it's a chop block if the lineman were lined up more than 1 spot apart. So, for example, if the center is engaged with a defender, and a guard hits the guy, it's cool. If, however, one of the tackles comes in and hits the same defender below the line, it's a chop block.
Right, so last night's block should not have been a penalty. That fact escaped the refs and the announcers.
maddog78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2012, 09:53 AM   #6
Darkstorm05
Team Captain
 
Darkstorm05's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 829
Gender: Male
Member Number: 19897
Thanks: 7
Thanked 69 Times in 46 Posts
Default Re: What constitutes an illegal chop block?

Quote:
Originally Posted by maddog78 View Post
Right, so last night's block should not have been a penalty. That fact escaped the refs and the announcers.
Most likely you can thank Brian Cushing for that. After the media backlash, at the next ref meeting there was probably a slide that said "Crack down on chop blocks until this blows over".
Darkstorm05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2012, 10:21 AM   #7
steelfury02
Wing Kong Exchange - CEO
Supporter
 
steelfury02's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,070
Member Number: 6076
Thanks: 5,835
Thanked 4,970 Times in 2,352 Posts
My Mood: Fine
Default Re: What constitutes an illegal chop block?

Section 18.2.A.QQ.867-5309:
"If the rule benefits the Steelers' opponents, then rule in the opponents' favor."
__________________
MacReady: Beaver pics - don't think we're in much shape to do anything about this thread
Childs: Well, what do we do?
MacReady: Why don't we just . . .wait here and post for a little while longer . . . see what happens?
steelfury02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2012, 12:43 PM   #8
teegre
Living Legend
Supporter
 
teegre's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 16,247
Member Number: 24108
Thanks: 24,141
Thanked 25,539 Times in 10,361 Posts
My Mood: Dead
Default Re: What constitutes an illegal chop block?

Quote:
Originally Posted by steelfury02 View Post
Section 18.2.A.QQ.867-5309:
"If the rule benefits the Steelers' opponents, then rule in the opponents' favor."
Similarly...

Section 18.2.FDPS: 123.43:
"If a DL (or any defender) dives at BB's knees, that it is allowed... but, if a defender sneezes in the general direction of ANY other QB, a personal foul penalty must be called."
teegre is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.0.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Navbar with Avatar by Motorradforum
no new posts