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Old 04-03-2013, 05:29 PM   #101
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Default Re: Keenan Lewis Worth 8 Million a Year?

Like I said before, I wish we kept Lewis and cut Taylor and his big paycheck. Lewis and Allen would of made an awesome tandem
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Taylor graded out much higher than Lewis, and is actually IS worth his contract relatively speaking. When Ike hangs it up, Lewis will be a free agent.
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Old 04-03-2013, 06:22 PM   #103
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Default Re: Keenan Lewis Worth 8 Million a Year?

I would like to see that. Can you post Taylors so we can all see please. Regardless I would still take Lewis over Taylor. Lewis is younger and Taylor is nearing the end of his career.
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I would like to see that. Can you post Taylors so we can all see please. Regardless I would still take Lewis over Taylor. Lewis is younger and Taylor is nearing the end of his career.
Sorry Pete! Ask and you shall receive though.

23. Ike Taylor, Pittsburgh Steelers

Coverage

Ike Taylor’s 2012 season ended in Week 13, but in the 11 games before he showed the confidence and awareness that has made him a top cornerback for years. He is best in man coverage, where his quickness and vision allow him to get in front of the ball and make plays on the pass. He’ll fight through the route to contest passes and does a good job frustrating receivers.

Taylor did not show the same penchant for interceptions in 2012 that he did in 2011, but he did a good job defending and challenging passes. He can be beaten by a good double move, and you’ll see veteran quarterbacks looking him off with shoulder fakes. He does tend to be susceptible to high yardage before the completion when quarterbacks come his way. Better positioning and change-of-direction skills would put him in closer quarters on those grabs.

59/70

Run Defense

Taylor fits the Steelers’ tough mentality against the run. He’s a long-limbed corner who will come up to play the edge with good success.

11/15

Tackle

During his 11 full games, Taylor was a consistent tackler with few outright misses. He did put himself in poor positions at times, but when he had a clear attempt he generally made the tackle.

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Overall

Taylor has long been an underrated presence on the edge, and when healthy he’s one of the better, more consistent players at the position.

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Default Re: Keenan Lewis Worth 8 Million a Year?

Well that's not much higher. For being that close I would of went with the younger guy who has more years left. Regardless no point crying over spilled milk. I'm glad we have Allen
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Well that's not much higher. For being that close I would of went with the younger guy who has more years left. Regardless no point crying over spilled milk. I'm glad we have Allen
I thought Allen went to Dallas
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That would be Will Allen, he is talking about Cortez Allen.
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That would be Will Allen, he is talking about Cortez Allen.
Damn I forgot about him
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23. Ike Taylor, Pittsburgh Steelers

Coverage

Ike Taylor’s 2012 season ended in Week 13, but in the 11 games before he showed the confidence and awareness that has made him a top cornerback for years. He is best in man coverage, where his quickness and vision allow him to get in front of the ball and make plays on the pass. He’ll fight through the route to contest passes and does a good job frustrating receivers.

Taylor did not show the same penchant for interceptions in 2012 that he did in 2011, but he did a good job defending and challenging passes. He can be beaten by a good double move, and you’ll see veteran quarterbacks looking him off with shoulder fakes. He does tend to be susceptible to high yardage before the completion when quarterbacks come his way. Better positioning and change-of-direction skills would put him in closer quarters on those grabs.

59/70

Run Defense

Taylor fits the Steelers’ tough mentality against the run. He’s a long-limbed corner who will come up to play the edge with good success.

11/15

Tackle

During his 11 full games, Taylor was a consistent tackler with few outright misses. He did put himself in poor positions at times, but when he had a clear attempt he generally made the tackle.

11/15

Overall

Taylor has long been an underrated presence on the edge, and when healthy he’s one of the better, more consistent players at the position.

81/100
What you don't seem to realize is Taylor, however slightly it may appear statistically, was better against the best WRs the opponents had to offer.

Another point of consideration is that Taylor primarily defends the weakside of the Offense. If you know anything about defensive backfield play, this means he has much more area to cover with less support. Significantly less support. The way our D was deployed last year, most of the time Taylor is on an island, Clark with the center zone and Lewis with Troy over the top.

I'm sorry my friend, I wholeheartedly disagree with your supposition that Lewis and Taylor are even close to having equal value. When you look around the league at what corners of Taylors skill sets are, we are getting a bargain.

Lewis would get destroyed covering the weakside. Cortez Allen is not quite ready, but should be with a year as a starter. Looking at 2014, Taylors last year, we would be better off with him playing strongside than Lewis, and it will be at a lower cap hit.

Furthermore, I fully expect Lewis at about 2015 should be re-entering the FA market looking for work, then bring him back, lock him up, and play him strongside where he belongs, working on a bargain contract.
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What you don't seem to realize is Taylor, however slightly it may appear statistically, was better against the best WRs the opponents had to offer.

Another point of consideration is that Taylor primarily defends the weakside of the Offense. If you know anything about defensive backfield play, this means he has much more area to cover with less support. Significantly less support. The way our D was deployed last year, most of the time Taylor is on an island, Clark with the center zone and Lewis with Troy over the top.

I'm sorry my friend, I wholeheartedly disagree with your supposition that Lewis and Taylor are even close to having equal value. When you look around the league at what corners of Taylors skill sets are, we are getting a bargain.

Lewis would get destroyed covering the weakside. Cortez Allen is not quite ready, but should be with a year as a starter. Looking at 2014, Taylors last year, we would be better off with him playing strongside than Lewis, and it will be at a lower cap hit.

Furthermore, I fully expect Lewis at about 2015 should be re-entering the FA market looking for work, then bring him back, lock him up, and play him strongside where he belongs, working on a bargain contract.
I think you are underestimating, maybe borderline "hating" on Lewis. The kid is gone for good and will likely still be a Saint when Taylor retires in 2 seasons.
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