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Old 11-25-2012, 06:50 PM   #21
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Default Re: Time to start the Brian Hoyer era in Pittsburgh?

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Batch = makes good reads; can't get the ball there (no arm)

Hoyer = great arm; can he make the correct reads?

Pick your poison.

[Hopefully, the RBs will stop fumbling, so that WHOMEVER the QB happens to be, the Steelers can just hand off 25-30 times.]
I'll take the better arm and lack of experience over no arm and years of experience.
The better arm can make a good throw occasionally.
No arm, no good throws......we saw that today.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:03 PM   #22
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Batch looked okay in the second half, but he doesn't have the arm to throw deep or hit a deep out. Wallace did him absolutely no favors though. Granted the tipped pass was behind Wallace and tough, but he made no effort on the deep throw that got picked or the one that hit the Browns' player's helmet.

I was calling for Hoyer in the first half, but Charlie's throws looked good enough in the second half where I still think he's a better option than someone that doesn't know the playbook.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:04 PM   #23
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I think that with that timid offensive game plan that the Steelers came up with, they were far too predictable and easy to defend. Charlie's weak arm didn't help, but neither did Haley. Everyone and their mother knew that the Steelers were going to run the football, a little more play action would have probably helped. But then again, with the way Charlie was throwing, maybe not.
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Hoyer ERA? LOL

thats as laughable as the Offense we had on the field today. Has Tomlin taken all the responsibility yet?
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:18 PM   #25
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We need to send Ben to see Mr. Miyagi from the Karate Kid, so he can get healed real quick.
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At this point we need someone with an arm more than someone who can read the defense but not get the ball there. The playbook can be dumbed down. It was tailored for Leftwich and Batch, it can be tailored for a rookie off the practice squad. Ask the offense for a touchdown and two FGs and let the defense win it from there. If the ravens defense never has to leave the box they can stand the running backs up, gang tackle and strip the ball all day. None of the RBs are healthy as it is. How long will they will be able to go against the dirtiest defense in league with no chance of a throw past the flat?
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Hoyer should have been in to heave a bomb at the end . How many plays do you have to memorize to do that ?
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Batch played as well as he could given the extremely short amount of time that was given to him to prepare. He had historically won more games as a Steeler in the starting QB position than lost - and even after today, that still stands. I felt as though he was beginning to warm up - but hell, this is an offense that has played with three different QBs in three weeks. Batch wasn't supposed to be carrying the load of the offense - our run game should have allowed Batch to keep it simple and efficient - but that's not going to happen when you have every single rusher dropping the ball.

This disrespect towards him is not unexpected given the result of the game - but there is a hell of a lot of blame to go around, and considering the circumstances, Batch probably did enough to have won...had the rest of our offense had likewise gotten their shit together.
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It is becoming increasingly clear though that - at least this season - Ben is the elite QB that I always knew him to be. Our offense is not at its best right now - with or without Ben (read: Wallace...fumbles, dropped balls and numerous injuries) - but it's pretty evident that this team lives and dies by Number 7. Its just incredible just how much of a difference he brings to the game.
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It is becoming increasingly clear though that - at least this season - Ben is the elite QB that I always knew him to be. Our offense is not at its best right now - with or without Ben (read: Wallace...fumbles, dropped balls and numerous injuries) - but it's pretty evident that this team lives and dies by Number 7. Its just incredible just how much of a difference he brings to the game.
While I have been critical of BR in the past, this is not that, but the problem is not just how good Ben is, it's that our backups are that bad. Leftwich didn't take two snaps before sustaining what should have been a game ending injury last week, and Charlie, who didn't have a strong arm to start with, has lost what he had. Whoever made the decision to keep Leftwich and Batch as backups did us no favors.
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