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Old 11-25-2012, 10:18 PM   #31
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I just don't know where people get this idea that he's chummy with his players. I have never once read that he is friends with any of them. I'm an eager reader, so if you have something to show me, please do so.

I do feel that Tomlin's boner for veterans is a hit-or-miss strategy. There's pluses and minuses to it. In today's case we may have been better off keeping Jerrod Johnson than either Batch or Leftwich, but that's 20/20, and even as such is just a fan's perspective.

How anyone can question Tomlin's ultimate results - wins - is beyond me. The man wins football games. I don't want to hear about this being "just stats" and how he doesn't pass "the eyeball test". Some of you will just never be happy unless you're miserable. Well, now is your moment.
Personally, I think he has been carried to those wins. I could be wrong, and I don't mind if I am, as long as that means the Steelers keep winning championships.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:27 PM   #32
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Tomlin might be a good coordinator but he is showing he is no head coach.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:35 PM   #33
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Showing how? He's won an awful lot of games in his short tenure. What exactly should he show other than wins?
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:46 PM   #34
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Showing how? He's won an awful lot of games in his short tenure. What exactly should he show other than wins?
Consistency would be nice. Also looking like you know what you're doing might help as well.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:15 PM   #35
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I have a question for all of those who despise Tomlin.

Let's assume that Cowher is the better coach (I don't think he is better than Tomlin, but that is not the point of this post). Let's assume that Cowher is better... and go from there.

Cowher is better.
He is retired.
The Steelers need to hire someone... so, if it is not Tomlin, then with whom would you replace him?

Before you answer Nick Saban (or some other college coach), name the last college coach who was successful in the NFL. (My guess is that your answer will be Jimmy Johnson... who is an anomaly.) Sure, Jim Harbaugh has turned his team around, but he has ZERO championships. And, he is winning with "Singletary's guys"... right? So... who...??

If you want a coordinator... again I ask: Who???

The fact is, that even if Cowher was better, he is retired, and SOMEONE has to coach the Steelers.

Heck, you can have any coach in the NFL... who would you take over Tomlin: Belichick? Coughlin? But, even both of those are maybes, because just like Tomlin, neither of them won without an elite QB (number of SuperBowls for those coaches prior to Brady & Eli: ZERO).

Cowher was better. He is retired. And, so are Mel Blount & Rod Woodson.

Think about that analogy. Ike Taylor is no where near as good as Blount or Woodson... but, Ike has been pretty darn good. Who else would you have rather have had for the past nine seasons? Tillman... Asomugha... someone else?

In other words, maybe there are a few better coaches in the league, but then again, maybe there aren't.

More importantly, the past is the past... and has nothing to do with the present. Cowher was a better coach... so was Lombardi... and, so was Paul Brown. So, what exactly does that have to do with any current coach?
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Tomlin might be a good coordinator but he is showing he is no head coach.
can you please speak louder?

Mike Tomlin can't hear what you're saying with his two AFC Championship rings plugging his ears.
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Under Cowher the Steelers would definitely be a more disciplined football team. My only two concerns about him as a head coach would be his ability to win the big game and a "play not to lose" mentality.
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Consistency would be nice. Also looking like you know what you're doing might help as well.
He's consistently won a lot of games, year-in and year-out. Again, I'm not getting it. And looking like he knows what he's doing visually? As in, you want to see a certain look to him on the sidelines? Explain.
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What am I missing? What did Tomlin do wrong today? How do you coach around four fumbles?
Actually, we fumbled SEVEN times and lost five. But who is counting.
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Actually, we fumbled SEVEN times and lost five. But who is counting.
... and threw three INTS... and dropped three INTs on defense... and hurt Mike Adams' knee... and...
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