Antonio Brown overrated

steeltheone · 11-28-2012, 04:23 AM

Mike Wallace gets slaughtered on these boards and sometimes for good reason! But Browns stats are very average, and certainly not number 1 wideout numbers.

Killer · 11-28-2012, 04:33 AM

not getting enough attention at home?

steeltheone · 11-28-2012, 04:48 AM

Take off your homer glasses and look at the stats .... A no show in playoff games to date and numbers that resemble number 3 wideout.

I know he had a thousand last year. So did Wallace.

***Bayz101*** · 11-28-2012, 05:02 AM

No show in the playoffs? Brown made one of the greatest catches in Steelers playoff history and beat the Ravens with it. Wallace dropped Ben's last pass in the Super Bowl. Brown is the better all-around receiver, and it's no coincidence that our receivers are having trouble getting open without him on the field.

steeltheone · 11-28-2012, 05:10 AM

4 games. ( 1 SB) 10 receptions 160 yards... No td's That's not what you expect out of a playmaker.

I know he is good, ( lots of good wideouts ) but, he has done nothing to suggest he is anymore than that.

steeltheone · 11-28-2012, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayz101

No show in the playoffs? Brown made one of the greatest catches in Steelers playoff history and beat the Ravens with it. Wallace dropped Ben's last pass in the Super Bowl. Brown is the better all-around receiver, and it's no coincidence that our receivers are having trouble getting open without him on the field.

Might have just a LITTLE something to do with the Quarterbacking the last few weeks, just a little!

teegre · 11-28-2012, 07:11 AM

1. In those play-offs, Brown was not the starter; hence, his numbers SHOULD look like 3rd WR numbers (because they was exactly his role).

2. As the 3rd WR, he made the third down reception that sealed the victory in both the Ravens and the NYJets play-off games.

3. Admittedly, not enough TDs, but he converts third downs, which is extremely important.

4. He does not drop passes like Wallace does. Brown has better mechanics (Wallace catches with his chest). And, Brown is far, far better after the catch. Wallace's ONLY asset is his speed, but when one drops passes, it doesn't matter how fast one is.

lotas · 11-28-2012, 07:37 AM

Stop looking on paper and focus on real time game situations. Brown comes through in the clutch, he gets open on big third downs, he converts to keep drives alive.

He is consistent, bottom line.

That catch teegre is referring to, 3rd and 19, Brown beats his guy and gets open downfield and reels it in against his helmet? Come on, enough said.

Wallace makes great highlight reels with his deep catches, but doesn't come through on the little plays when needed. I hope it changes, but I feel like it has more to do with attitude than anything.

lipps83 · 11-28-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by steeltheone

4 games. ( 1 SB) 10 receptions 160 yards... No td's That's not what you expect out of a playmaker.

I know he is good, ( lots of good wideouts ) but, he has done nothing to suggest he is anymore than that.

You seem to forget he was only a starter for one playoff game. He was 4th string before that. If your expectations are that a 4th stringer light up stats in the paper, your expectations are too high.

lipps83 · 11-28-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by teegre

1. In those play-offs, Brown was not the starter; hence, his numbers SHOULD look like 3rd WR numbers (because they was exactly his role).

2. As the 3rd WR, he made the third down reception that sealed the victory in both the Ravens and the NYJets play-off games.

3. Admittedly, not enough TDs, but he converts third downs, which is extremely important.

4. He does not drop passes like Wallace does. Brown has better mechanics (Wallace catches with his chest). And, Brown is far, far better after the catch. Wallace's ONLY asset is his speed, but when one drops passes, it doesn't matter how fast one is.

You sure he was 3rd? I am pretty sure he was behind Ward/Wallace/Sanders.

11-28-2012, 04:23 AM	#1
steeltheone Team Owner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Harrisburg Pa. Posts: 2,952 Gender: Male Member Number: 6351 Thanks: 56 Thanked 64 Times in 47 Posts	Antonio Brown overrated Mike Wallace gets slaughtered on these boards and sometimes for good reason! But Browns stats are very average, and certainly not number 1 wideout numbers. __________________ Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." - Vince Lombardi

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11-28-2012, 04:48 AM	#3
steeltheone Team Owner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Harrisburg Pa. Posts: 2,952 Gender: Male Member Number: 6351 Thanks: 56 Thanked 64 Times in 47 Posts	Re: Antonio Brown overrated Take off your homer glasses and look at the stats .... A no show in playoff games to date and numbers that resemble number 3 wideout. I know he had a thousand last year. So did Wallace. __________________ Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." - Vince Lombardi

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steeltheone Team Owner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Harrisburg Pa. Posts: 2,952 Gender: Male Member Number: 6351 Thanks: 56 Thanked 64 Times in 47 Posts	Re: Antonio Brown overrated 4 games. ( 1 SB) 10 receptions 160 yards... No td's That's not what you expect out of a playmaker. I know he is good, ( lots of good wideouts ) but, he has done nothing to suggest he is anymore than that. __________________ Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." - Vince Lombardi

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11-28-2012, 07:11 AM	#7
teegre Living Legend Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3,512 Member Number: 24108 Thanks: 1,043 Thanked 882 Times in 573 Posts	Re: Antonio Brown overrated 1. In those play-offs, Brown was not the starter; hence, his numbers SHOULD look like 3rd WR numbers (because they was exactly his role). 2. As the 3rd WR, he made the third down reception that sealed the victory in both the Ravens and the NYJets play-off games. 3. Admittedly, not enough TDs, but he converts third downs, which is extremely important. 4. He does not drop passes like Wallace does. Brown has better mechanics (Wallace catches with his chest). And, Brown is far, far better after the catch. Wallace's ONLY asset is his speed, but when one drops passes, it doesn't matter how fast one is.

11-28-2012, 07:37 AM	#8
lotas Draft Prospect Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 148 Member Number: 1176 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Antonio Brown overrated Stop looking on paper and focus on real time game situations. Brown comes through in the clutch, he gets open on big third downs, he converts to keep drives alive. He is consistent, bottom line. That catch teegre is referring to, 3rd and 19, Brown beats his guy and gets open downfield and reels it in against his helmet? Come on, enough said. Wallace makes great highlight reels with his deep catches, but doesn't come through on the little plays when needed. I hope it changes, but I feel like it has more to do with attitude than anything.

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