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Old 12-11-2012, 04:06 PM   #61
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Default Re: Thoughts on the Haley offense

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Well... When Arians took over as OC in 2007, he (and Ben) had 9 wins at the same time of year that Arians has 9 wins now with Indy.

That's pretty consistent.
Or was Ben "carrying" BA in 2007?

Or could it be that Arians just knows how to get the most out of a QB?
Maybe BECAUSE the Father Flanagan thing works better?

Just spitballin'...
Or, it's the fact that Arians had elite quarterbacks coming into the NFL. Give him an average-to-decent quarterback and let's see how he'll do.

Ben made Bruce look very, very good. How many times did Ben have to improvise plays and bail out Arians after a terrible, terrible playcall which Ben turned it into magic. Having a gameplan of throwing first in a tropical storm is the type of thing Bruce exceeds at.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:36 PM   #62
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Default Re: Thoughts on the Haley offense

Responding to the title thread.

I'd give it a B-minus, down from a B+.

But as usual, the downgrade is more related to the OL play than the coaching.

I also expected more deep passing plays with the speed at WR we have and a more creative use of Rainey.
I love the way Heath's more involved.

If Haley stays and we improve the OL (again) this offense could really take off.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:43 PM   #63
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Or, it's the fact that Arians had elite quarterbacks coming into the NFL. Give him an average-to-decent quarterback and let's see how he'll do.

Ben made Bruce look very, very good. How many times did Ben have to improvise plays and bail out Arians after a terrible, terrible playcall which Ben turned it into magic. Having a gameplan of throwing first in a tropical storm is the type of thing Bruce exceeds at.
Ask the clowns how good arians was with average qb's.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:51 PM   #64
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Ask the clowns how good arians was with average qb's.
The Browns?

Really?

So you're saying that what a person does early in their career is what they'll do forever?
Don't you think he's learned a bit over the years?
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:29 PM   #65
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The Browns?

Really?

So you're saying that what a person does early in their career is what they'll do forever?
Don't you think he's learned a bit over the years?
Colts & Manning GOOD
Browns & avergae quarterback BAD
Steelers & Big Ben GOOD
Colts & Luck GOOD

It's science.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:33 PM   #66
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Colts & Manning GOOD
Browns & avergae quarterback BAD
Steelers & Big Ben GOOD
Colts & Luck GOOD

It's science.
Oh, it science.

So where then, is Haley on the Periodic Table?
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:34 PM   #67
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Dead last in the AFC in number of 1st downs, far behind the others, is not only due to injuries.
Of course it isn't the only thing, but it IS the 800lb gorillia in the room that even a novice fan should be able to come to grips with, or something like that.....
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Oh, it science.

So where then, is Haley on the Periodic Table?
Right between Ken Whisenhunt & Kevin Gilbride, and two rows up from Bruce Arians & Ray Sherman.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:09 PM   #69
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I've seen some Whisenhunt moments from Haley, but he's had his Arians moments too. I wish he'd make up his mind so I can love him or hate him, this both thing is painful.
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get rid of damned wr screen....hate that play
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