"Why can't we be like the Pats...."

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by Edman

Every year for the past couple of years they've looked "light years" better than the rest of the league and it was always another team who walked away with the Lombardi...except them. Every now and then you have to start questioning the "Patriots are so awesome" hype.

You can give credit where it's due, but go be a Pats fan if you want to be awestruck by their pretty regular seasons and minimal championship success, and you'll find out the grass isn't so greener on the other side.

The Pats' record since 2000 is definitely better than us, in W/L, in number of playoffs games, in number of SB appearances and in numer of Lombardis. Let's be objective.
I'd have a different opinion if we were talking about the 70s and 80s

[plenewken]

Duplicate.

[Fire Arians]

they beat the bad teams the way they should be beaten, convincingly. i wish we could do that.

[Stairway to 7]

Originally Posted by Fire Arians

they beat the bad teams the way they should be beaten, convincingly. i wish we could do that.

Every game is a struggle and i'm sick and tired of it.

[Fire Arians]

Originally Posted by Stairway to 7

Every game is a struggle and i'm sick and tired of it.

I'm no tired of close games or struggles, but I WOULD like to see some consistency out of our team.

Sometimes they come out on fire, sometimes they play flat. You never know which steelers team you're going to get. You can almost bet that whenever we're favored to crush a 'lowly' team, the 'flat' team comes out. When we are playing a good team, they're ready.

As much as I dislike Belichick, what makes him good is that he somehow manages to get his team ready for every game, lowly opponent or not, you know which Patriots* team is going to show up.

[Edman]

Originally Posted by plenewken

The Pats' record since 2000 is definitely better than us, in W/L, in number of playoffs games, in number of SB appearances and in numer of Lombardis. Oh and the show on the field is more entertaining too. Let's be objective.
I'd have a different opinion if we were talking about the 70s and 80s

So?

I am the one who is being objective with sense. You are the one who is jumping on another team's bandwagon just because ours doesn't look so pretty at moment. I am a Steelers fan and I couldn't care less about the Patriots. The Patriots Fan Forum is thataway. You're perfectly free to quit rooting for this team if you wish.

The Steelers were terrible in the 80's, by the way.

It's fine if you want the Steelers to play better, I certainly do, but to say you want them to be like the Patriots is ridiculous. It simply isn't happening.

[wootawnee]

Originally Posted by ETL

Admit it - don't you wish our offense and team was like the Pats? They go up 42-7 on teams like Houston, routinely score 40+ points and blow out the weak teams like they should. . In short, they act and behave as a dominant team should.

In contrast, the Steelers lose to teams with losing records such as the Chargers, Browns, Raiders and Titans. They are "Jekyll and Hyde", "bipolar", they "do not have an identity" and they wimper to wins over lowly teams like KC. They never seem to blow out an opponent and rarely score 40+ points.

So don't you wish we were like the Pats? If you deny it - just look at what you posted in the past 24 hrs. It sure sounds like you wish the Steelers won like the Patriots. Wouldn't rooting for a team that plays and wins like the Pats cure all your Steeler angst?

Before you think of me as a traitor - let me tell you why I like the Steelers just the way they are. The Pats are good and just like the Steelers, they give their fans the opportunity to win the Super Bowl year in and year out - which is all we fans can realistically ask for. However, the Steelers have a better defense and generally play football that allows their defense to be be on the field less than they have to. The Steelers generally win the time of possession battle and they do this by being dedicated to running the ball and winding down the clock. This means that we air it out less, play more ball control and score less.

Have we been successful? You bet. Since 2005, the Steelers have gone to 3 Super Bowls and won 2. The Pats have gone to 2 Super Bowls and won 0. When it comes to crunch time, teams seem to be able to stop the Pats high powered offense and find ways to score on their defense.

Do you think the Pats fans are eternally happy because their team "dominates"? Wrong. Just like any other team's message board - there are always things to gripe about. Calls to fire Belichick and sit Brady were rampant after the loss to the Cardinals and the Pat's 1-2 start. See its not always greener on the other side.

Do the Pats have a chance to win the SB this year? Absolutely! They are a good team - but I like our Steelers just fine, thank you, and recent history seems to favor how the Steelers like to play football. It may be boring, inconsistent and anger / anxiety provoking at times but every now and then, they put it all together and reward us fans with a SB win.

Go Steelers.

What , and lose 2 SB's to the G-men?.......Be careful what you wish for......

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by Edman

So?

I am the one who is being objective with sense. You are the one who is jumping on another team's bandwagon just because ours doesn't look so pretty at moment. I am a Steelers fan and I couldn't care less about the Patriots. The Patriots Fan Forum is thataway. You're perfectly free to quit rooting for this team if you wish.

The Steelers were terrible in the 80's, by the way.

It's fine if you want the Steelers to play better, I certainly do, but to say you want them to be like the Patriots is ridiculous. It simply isn't happening.

I'm not jumping on the Pats' bandwagon, I'm stating facts which show that not only their record is stronger than ours since 2000 but they don't lay eggs as frequently as we do, especially against weak teams and they're winning convincingly more often than we do.
So I hope our FO and our coaching staff look at the root causes and fix the problems.
That's all.

[ZoneBlitzer]

Originally Posted by Edman

Don't ever make a garbage topic like this again if you don't like what you're going to hear.

"Wahh, we don't blow teams out!"

"We don't score a ton of points!"

"We don't look like the Patriots!"

Guess what? The Steelers are not the Patriots and they're never going to be the Patriots. If you wanna go watch the Patriots, go be a Patriots fan. This topic is a pathetic pity-party crap demonstration of a loser mentality and it's sickening.

I think you're missing the point. I believe that what the OP was making reference was the Pats level of execution and efficiency. Is it so much to ask for that level of professionalism from the Steelers? I am sick and tired of seeing a sputtering offense and turnovers galore. I am also fed up of seeing them struggle and lose against lesser opponents. It's understandable if it occurs every once in awhile but what is occurring with this club has gone for some time now.

[ETL]

Originally Posted by Edman

Don't ever make a garbage topic like this again if you don't like what you're going to hear.

"Wahh, we don't blow teams out!"

"We don't score a ton of points!"

"We don't look like the Patriots!"

Guess what? The Steelers are not the Patriots and they're never going to be the Patriots. If you wanna go watch the Patriots, go be a Patriots fan. This topic is a pathetic pity-party crap demonstration of a loser mentality and it's sickening.

Hey idiot - I am saying the same thing as you in the original post. I like our Steelers as is and point out that all these people complaining about the steelers may as well be pats fans.

Read the god damn post. Moron!