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Old 12-15-2012, 05:07 AM   #31
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I have an eight-year-old and a four-year-old, and I couldn't help crying and hugging them all day yesterday. So sad. I read that there was only one casualty. All of the rest dead. How sick is that? One survivor. Maybe.
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Fischer: God Didn't Stop CT School Shooting Because He's a 'Gentleman' Who Doesn't Go Where He Is Not Wanted

Bryan Fischer spent the first hour of his radio program today discussing this morning's truly horrific shooting at an elementary school in Connecticut, which he, of course, blamed on the fact that prayer, the Bible, and the Ten Commandments are not taught in public schools.

Fischer said that God could have protected the victims of this massacre, but didn't because "God is not going to go where he is not wanted" and so if school administrators really want to protect students, they will start every school day with prayer:
This burns me up to no end... just about as much as all of this knee-jerk gun control talk. No one "banned" God from the 9/11 flights. No one "banned" God from Oklahoma City. God wasn't "banned" from the worst school tragedy in the 40s before this "war on Christianity" began. I HATE when people spew this trash.
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This burns me up to no end... just about as much as all of this knee-jerk gun control talk. .
Yeah - blame everyone but the shooter - that's how they want us to think.

I bet we'll find out the shooter was pumped full of brain med pharmaceuticals from an early age....because that's what we do as a society now.

Problem child? Start them on Ritalin early, then later drug them up with antidepressants and send them on their way.


But let's be real, the only thing that can stop someone with a gun, is someone else with a gun.

Israeli school:

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Old 12-15-2012, 10:37 AM   #34
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oh yeah - a .223 rifle was NOT used in the shootings - like all the blathering press wanted it to be an "assault rifle"

According to the Associated Press, three guns were found at the scene - a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car Lanza drove to the scene. A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said some of the guns used in the attack may have belonged to Lanza's family

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Old 12-15-2012, 12:04 PM   #35
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Some good ways to help those affected in CT yesterday, and how do deal with this tragedy (and others) with your own children.

A couple of suggestions I saw posted today (and a good idea would be to try and organize some kind of community card instead of just sending individual cards/teddy bears).

Teddy Bears and/or cards can be sent to: Voices of September 11/161 Cherry St/Mew Canaan CT 06840. Voices Director email: MAFetchet@voicesofsept11.org. Please consider sending a card of comfort for a parent or a Teddy Bear for one of the many children affected by this abdominal act.

If you would like to mail sympathy cards, postcards, letters of support or even teddy bears for the children and solidarity to the school, the school address is Sandy Hook Elementary School, 12 Dickenson Drive, Sandy Hook, CT 06482

You can also make donations to their local clinics and groups. Info here... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2302760.html

In times of community or world-wide crisis, it's easy to assume that young children don't know what's going on. But one thing's for sure -- children are very sensitive to how their parents feel. They're keenly aware of the expressions on their parents' faces and the tone of their voices. Children can sense when their parents are really worried, whether they're watching the news or talking about it with others. No matter what children know about a “crisis,” it’s especially scary for children to realize that their parents are scared.

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-Do your best to keep the television off, or at least limit how much your child sees of any news event.

-Try to keep yourself calm. Your presence can help your child feel more secure.
Give your child extra comfort and physical affection, like hugs or snuggling up together with a favorite book. Physical comfort goes a long way towards providing inner security. That closeness can nourish you, too.

-Try to keep regular routines as normal as possible. Children and adults count on their familiar pattern of everyday life.

-Plan something that you and your child enjoy doing together, like taking a walk, going on a picnic, having some quiet time, or doing something silly. It can help to know there are simple things in life that can help us feel better, in good times and in bad.

-Even if children don't mention what they've seen or heard in the news, it can help to ask what they think has happened. If parents don't bring up the subject, children can be left with their misinterpretations. You may be really surprised at how much your child has heard from others.

-Focus attention on the helpers, like the police, firemen, doctors, nurses, paramedics, and volunteers. It's reassuring to know there are many caring people who are doing all they can to help others in this world.

-Let your child know if you're making a donation, going to a town meeting, writing a letter or e-mail of support, or taking some other action. It can help children to know that adults take many different active roles and that we don't give in to helplessness in times of worldwide crisis.


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But let's be real, the only thing that can stop someone with a gun, is someone else with a gun.

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Israeli gun laws

It’s pretty much impossible for civilians who live in Israel to acquire an arsenal of weaponry of the sort used by the alleged shooter in [the] massacre in Aurora, Colo. James E. Holmes, who is accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 in the Aurora movie theater, legally bought the firearms he used, according to reports, including a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic pistol and a 12-gauge shotgun. Leading up to the shooting, Holmes had bought thousands of bullets online.

In Israel, assault rifles are banned except for special circumstances, such as communal self-defense in areas deemed to be a security risk. And while political violence in Israel is all too common and gun violence is a growing problem, random shootings of strangers – like the Aurora massacre -- are virtually unheard-of here.

Unlike in the United States, where the right to bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution’s Second Amendment, Israel’s department of public security considers gun ownership a privilege, not a right. Gun owners in Israel are limited to owning one pistol, and must undergo extensive mental and physical tests before they can receive a weapon, and gun owners are limited to 50 rounds of ammunition per year.


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Yeah - blame everyone but the shooter - that's how they want us to think.

I bet we'll find out the shooter was pumped full of brain med pharmaceuticals from an early age....because that's what we do as a society now.

Problem child? Start them on Ritalin early, then later drug them up with antidepressants and send them on their way.


But let's be real, the only thing that can stop someone with a gun, is someone else with a gun.

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Yes, because the Israelis live such safe, secure lives.
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Maybe they should ban terrorism and suicide bombings.
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oh yeah - a .223 rifle was NOT used in the shootings - like all the blathering press wanted it to be an "assault rifle"

According to the Associated Press, three guns were found at the scene - a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car Lanza drove to the scene. A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said some of the guns used in the attack may have belonged to Lanza's family

http://www.wfsb.com/story/20345707/c...chool-shooting
Add the blathering medical examiner to those who say a rifle was used

More on what the state's chief medical examiner told reporters minutes ago in Newtown: He said the "rifle" was used in the shooting, and that the rifle caused all of the wounds that he knew of.

He didn't say what that rifle was, but a law enforcement source has previously said that the gunman was found dead with next to three guns: a semi-automatic.223-caliber Bushmaster rifle and two pistols made by Glock and Sig Sauer.


http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/15...assacre/?hpt=hp_t1

All of the children killed by a gunman at a Connecticut elementary school were shot multiple times, according to the state’s chief medical examiner, who said that it was worst scene he had witnessed in three decades examining crime scenes.

“This is a very devastating set of injuries,” said Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, the chief medical examiner for the state. He said that it appeared that all of the children had been killed by a long rifle that the gunman was carrying, one of several weapons police recovered from the school. ...

Dr. Carver said that in the seven autopsies he himself had performed, the victims had from 3 to 11 wounds.

With the examinations complete and the families informed, the authorities released the names of those killed.

They ranged in age from 6 to 56. Among the children, there were 12 girls killed and 8 boys. All of the children were in the first grade, officials said, and all were 6 or 7 years old. One little girl had just turned 7 on Tuesday.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/ny...in-all.html?hp

There is evil in the world

And also grace - the father of one of the children (Emily Parker) who was murdered is on CNN expressing his condolences to the family of the shooter - and then takes questions - I cannot conceive of having the faith and strength to do that

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He said the "rifle" was used in the shooting, and that the rifle caused all of the wounds that he knew of.

He didn't say what that rifle was, but a law enforcement source has previously said that the gunman was found dead with next to three guns: a semi-automatic.223-caliber Bushmaster rifle and two pistols made by Glock and Sig Sauer.[/I]

they change the story every 20 min on this

I quit, I'm ignoring everything anyone says for a week
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