Mike Tomlin up to the tall tasks ahead

[sloppyjoe]

Originally Posted by Quackjack

Seriously, what the fuck is up with you people? Tomlin is one of the winningest coaches in recent memory, and all you can do is bitch about him. He has his flaws, but so did Lombardi and Madden.

What's the beef? I want one logical answer to this question, but I probably won't.

just because a guy stands on the sidelines with a extremely talented team and wins alot of games doesnt make him a great coach.
im waiting for a tomnlin supporter tel tell me what he does or has done to make the team better. dont give me his record. give me some examples of things he did that display great leadeship, coaching, development, game adjustments, time manangment etc etc

show me how if tomlin was coaching the greatly less talented chiefs this year that his coaching would elevate that team to numerous more wins

[desertsteel]

Originally Posted by sloppyjoe

just because a guy stands on the sidelines with a extremely talented team and wins alot of games doesnt make him a great coach.
im waiting for a tomnlin supporter tel tell me what he does or has done to make the team better. dont give me his record. give me some examples of things he did that display great leadeship, coaching, development, game adjustments, time manangment etc etc

show me how if tomlin was coaching the greatly less talented chiefs this year that his coaching would elevate that team to numerous more wins

This is a truly clueless comment. Do you even know what a head coach does in the NFL? And do you really think that we are a "extremely talented team?" Really?

[sloppyjoe]

Originally Posted by desertsteel

This is a truly clueless comment. Do you even know what a head coach does in the NFL? And do you really think that we are a "extremely talented team?" Really?

enlighten me

[austinfrench76]

Tomlin is a very good coach. He has nothbing to do with the turnovers. That is what has killed our season more than anything. More than penalties or injureis even. Turnovers killed us in Tennessee, Oakland, Denver, CLEVELAND and now in Dallas. In Denver, Dallas, Tennessee and Oakland, they ended the game! Tomlin isn't perfect but hell no one is.

[BowCatShot]

Tomlin is a big fat dummy.

[Riddle_Of_Steel]

Originally Posted by austinfrench76

Tomlin is a very good coach. He has nothbing to do with the turnovers. That is what has killed our season more than anything. More than penalties or injureis even. Turnovers killed us in Tennessee, Oakland, Denver, CLEVELAND and now in Dallas. In Denver, Dallas, Tennessee and Oakland, they ended the game! Tomlin isn't perfect but hell no one is.

Gotta disagree on one account.

The fumbling IS on Tomlin to a large degree. Dropping the ball shows a lack of discpline and focus.

I remember in high school, the fumbling blues hit us for a while like that terrible game against Cleveland a few weeks back. We started off practice every night the next week running hills. And the standing order that was left in place was you won yourself an additional 5 hills on Monday night per fumble during the game.

The fumbleitis bug never resurfaced again that year.

But as to the people who hate on Tomlin-- I think he is a great coach. His numbers speak for themselves-- only one active HC has a higher win percentage, Bill Belicheat. But he is human, and not perfect.

He just has some things to work on next season. Tomlin has broken most of the rest of our "curses" (Pats, Jags, poor Oline in 2008, etc.), I think he will bring this team full circle.

[tanda10506]

Originally Posted by desertsteel

This is a truly clueless comment. Do you even know what a head coach does in the NFL? And do you really think that we are a "extremely talented team?" Really?

This is a truly clueless comment actually. Why don't you fill us in then on what Tomlin specifically does? And yes we are an extremely talented team. Let's see: J. Harrison, T. Polamlu, R. Clark, I. Taylor, L. Woodley, M. Pouncey, M. Wallace, A. Brown, H. Miller, L. Timmons, good #3-#5 WR's, decent O line depth, and a QB that will likely be in the HOF, yeah this is a pretty damn talented team. Damn, have you even looked at our depth chart? And that's this year. When we "unleashed hell" in 2009 Hampton and Farrior were still playing good.

Teegre, good call, for some reason I wasn't thinking that Cowher almost passed on Ben. That would have been a total blunder. Good point, but still, once he got a real QB we went 15-1 and lost to a team that was cheating, then followed it up next year with a SB. Cowher wasn't perfect, no coach is or ever will be, I just think Tomlin is a lot further from it then Cowher or a lot of other coach's. I'm not just trying to bag on Tomlin and I'm not saying that Tomlin isn't CAPABLE of getting the team back to where they want to be, I'm just saying we need a hell of a lot more from him then we're getting now. With all the fumbles, penalties, losses to crap teams, inconsistency and lack of heart, I don't see how anybody could think we're getting good coaching right now. That's not to say the players aren't part of the problem, it's a team sport, but those things that I just pointed out are discipline issues and that has a lot to do with the coach.

[mikegrimey]

Tomlin has yet to have a bad a stretch as Cowher had with the Steelers, seems like a lot of people are just feeling nostalgic for the past. It's ok, a lot of the boobs who are worshipping at the altar of Cowher now would have been begging for him to get fired a decade ago

[FrancoLambert]

Tomlin's more of a manager than a coach.

[sloppyjoe]

Originally Posted by austinfrench76

Tomlin is a very good coach. He has nothbing to do with the turnovers. That is what has killed our season more than anything. More than penalties or injureis even. Turnovers killed us in Tennessee, Oakland, Denver, CLEVELAND and now in Dallas. In Denver, Dallas, Tennessee and Oakland, they ended the game! Tomlin isn't perfect but hell no one is.

you too can enlighten me