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Old 12-19-2012, 07:43 PM   #1
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Default NFL Network - Immaculate Reception - 8 PM Tonight

On NFL Network at 8 PM EST tonight

8:00 PM A FOOTBALL LIFE: IMMACULATE RECEPTION 'A Football Life takes an in-depth look at the iconic play, the Immaculate Reception, using unique on and off-the-field sights, sounds and stories

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule
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On NFL Network at 8 PM EST tonight

8:00 PM A FOOTBALL LIFE: IMMACULATE RECEPTION 'A Football Life takes an in-depth look at the iconic play, the Immaculate Reception, using unique on and off-the-field sights, sounds and stories

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule
thanks Dan, I'm watching it right now!
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:36 PM   #3
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What a great show! Tremendous tribute to not only the play, but to the entire history of the Steeler Nation. The best line was concerning visitor's reaction to the statue at the airport along side George Washingon's. The typical Steeler fans reaction would be "Yeah, George beat the Redcoats, but Franco beat the Raiders!"
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:41 PM   #4
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Default Re: NFL Network - Immaculate Reception - 8 PM Tonight

Madden’s done talking about the Immaculate Reception

Posted by Mike Florio on December 19, 2012



On Sunday, as the Steelers host the Bengals in a game that has Pittsburgh’s postseason chances hanging in the balance, the home team will be commemorating the 40th anniversary of the most famous — and notorious — play in NFL history.

On December 23, 1972, Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw threw a ball that was (or wasn’t) touched first by Raiders safety Jack Tatum and not by Steelers running back Frenchy Fuqua, that didn’t (or did) hit the turf just as Steelers running back Franco Harris caught it in full stride before running toward the end zone as Raiders linebacker Phil Villapiano wasn’t (or was) clipped by a blocker who prevented Villapiano from making the tackle.

The Steelers won the game after referee Fred Swearingen called the press box to speak to NFL supervisor of officials Art McNally, who didn’t (or did) look at a replay of the what-just-happened moment before consulting with Swearingen, who wasn’t (or was) fearful of his own safety amid a mob of Pittsburghers who would not have reacted well to the news that a now-defunct rule regarding the initial touching of a pass by an offensive player had wiped out the playoff victory.

Those and other questions permeate the latest installment from NFL Films’ A Football Life series, which focuses on the play that gradually and, from the perspective of the Steelers’ organization, reluctantly came to be known as the Immaculate Reception.

The conflict still resonates four decades later, with former Raiders coach John Madden refusing to be interviewed for the documentary. In past comments on the topic, Madden has suggested that the outcome was determined via the unauthorized use of replay review. “That’s a helluva goddamn game that has to go down to someone up in the press box,” Madden is shown telling reporters immediately after the game.

Though it appears that the ball hit Tatum before Fuqua and that Franco would have sped by Villapiano if he hadn’t been clipped (and it looks like he wasn’t clipped), the biggest lingering question is whether the tip of the ball struck the ground just as Harris secured it.

Harris says, “I can’t say. From the time Bradshaw threw the ball, it was like I lost all sense of consciousness. Before I knew it, I’m up and running. Before that, everything is just a blur.”

Raiders safety George Atkinson insists the tip of the ball touched the ground. Bradshaw believes that, because Harris won’t clearly say he didn’t trap the ball against the ground, he probably did.

If the ball hit the ground, the contact came just as Harris caught it, because the NFL Films footage shows no bouncing or other movement of the ball, which ended up after the mandatory PAT in the possession of a fan who built a bank vault to keep it safe and secure.

The value of the ball pales in comparison to the value of the play to the mythology of pro football. Even though the Steelers would lose the following week to the undefeated Dolphins in the AFC title game, the play is widely regarded as the moment at which the fortunes of a long-suffering franchise forever changed.

It also made an indelible impression on a generation of fans. Growing up 60 miles from Pittsburgh in the days when even the sold out games were blacked out, the antenna attached to our chimney somehow picked up an NBC affiliate that was just beyond the reach of the 75-mile no-broadcast zone. Though there were maybe only 10 neighbors at most in the room when Harris made it to the end zone, to a seven-year-old the noise made it feel like 10,000.

And at that moment I first realized there’s something about NFL football that was and still is different than anything else I’d ever experienced.

Tune in to NFL Network at 8:00 p.m. ET on Wednesday to experience one of the most comprehensive looks that ever has been compiled of one of the most important moments in the history of pro football.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ate-reception/
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Default Re: NFL Network - Immaculate Reception - 8 PM Tonight

It looked to me like it hit Tatum and bounced straight back. I don't know what that means as far as the legality of the play, but that is what it looked like. If it hit the receiver, I think the ball would have bounced at an angle as opposed to directly back along the same path. The receiver may have got a hand on it, but it was difficult to tell from the film. I guess no current film can show if the ball hit the ground or not when Harris caught it. As for the clip, who knows. It was close. As for the disappearing film, who knows. So much controversy, maybe Lee Harvey Oswald has something some film, pictures, or something to add.

Madden not talking about the play is lame. We all know the play is controversial. One of the biggest historical names in football refuses to comment upon arguably the greatest, most controversial and well known play is just stupid.

Of course today we would have gotten to the bottom of that real quick. Can anyone explain the rules of the time to me? I don't quite understand why it matters if the ball went past the receiver, or who touched it first. It was a live ball as long as it did not hit the ground, correct? If proven Harris caught the ball via replay would the play have stood today?
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Default Re: NFL Network - Immaculate Reception - 8 PM Tonight

There's a complete recap of our game on the NBCSP channel right now.
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Can anyone explain the rules of the time to me? I don't quite understand why it matters if the ball went past the receiver, or who touched it first. It was a live ball as long as it did not hit the ground, correct? If proven Harris caught the ball via replay would the play have stood today?
as I recall, in those days, a forward pass, once touched by an Offensive player, had to touch a Defensive player, before being caught by another Offensive player

Fuqua to Harris = no-good, Fuqua to Tatum to Harris = OK

this would prevent an Offensive player from intentionally 'accidentally' tipping a pass to a teammate

another famous play of that era was 2 years prior, in SB5, when a pass that was caught for a TD by Colt TE John Mackey, was ruled to have been touched by a Crygirl defender, after having been intended & touched by another Colt
:25 this clip

[YOUTUBE]s0yWgxbv-P0[/YOUTUBE]

I can't remember when (probably when the League legalized holding by Offensive Linemen, and outlawed the bump-n-run, all to promote scoring), they did-away with this rule
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Thank you sir. They never quite explained why, I think they just used the rule i the context of the play without explaining it.

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as I recall, in those days, a forward pass, once touched by an Offensive player, had to touch a Defensive player, before being caught by another Offensive player

Fuqua to Harris = no-good, Fuqua to Tatum to Harris = OK

this would prevent an Offensive player from intentionally 'accidentally' tipping a pass to a teammate

another famous play of that era was 2 years prior, in SB5, when a pass that was caught for a TD by Colt TE John Mackey, was ruled to have been touched by a Crygirl defender, after having been intended & touched by another Colt
:25 this clip

[YOUTUBE]s0yWgxbv-P0[/YOUTUBE]

I can't remember when (probably when the League legalized holding by Offensive Linemen, and outlawed the bump-n-run, all to promote scoring), they did-away with this rule
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Thank you sir. They never quite explained why, I think they just used the rule i the context of the play without explaining it.
no-problem... some of today's younger fans won't understand how the game used-to (and was intended to) be played, without some of us old-farts explaining how it was back-then


if you saw that show last night, you saw goal-posts on the goal-line (I believe Gerela kicked the PAT at the opposite end of the Stadium ~ maybe the goal-posts were bent during the on-field celebration?), missed FG were spotted were the ball was snapped, not where it is kicked from as it is today, and at that time, Offensive holding was a 15-yard penalty, not 10:
as I recall, all were changed before the 1974 season
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Default Re: NFL Network - Immaculate Reception - 8 PM Tonight

Just listening to 93 the fan about it and I agree with the host - it was kind of weird. I don't believe it should be considered part of general history itself. That sort of diminishes real important world and US history. Also, the guy who built an 800,000 dollar safe to keep the ball safe is a bit of a loon. I can think of a lot better things to store for safekeeping than an ordinary football.
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