Ben=Bret

EbonySteel86 · 12-24-2012, 07:52 PM

Ben reminds me of Favre so much. He'll make some spectacular plays and on the same drive, break your heart. I saw an interview with Bret. He said he doesn't go threw he's reads. He said he goes from 1 straight to his 4th read. If them 2 not open, he just improvise. THAT'S BEN! Not your prototype, technical QB but a gun slinger. And gun slingers love the long ball. They not about reading defences or checking down or throwing it out of bounds. They ALWAYS try to make SOMETHING happen when nothing is there. Ben is a good Qb but asking him to do something he's not good at doing is risky.

ETL · 12-24-2012, 09:40 PM

I somewhat agree with you

Brett was much more wild and thus only won 1 Super Bowl. Ben is pretty wild as well - not as cerebral as Brady or Manning. Sometimes it's great to watch but lately it's been more agony. I don't know a better QB that's available now so we are basically stuck with him and its not the worst situation either as he is good enough to win you super bowls

Millers the sh!t · 12-24-2012, 09:53 PM

With our defense, we just need a decent game manager like Alex Smith. Get a real running back and let our o line get physical and practice run blocking like we used to 7-8 years ago.

Stillers2012 · 12-24-2012, 09:56 PM

Do you people realize that Ben isn't 100% because he is playing beat up. Give the guy a break. If he got all the mercy calls and bs penalties that Brady and the Manning boys get, he woul;d be more dominant than all of them put together.

Stillers2012 · 12-24-2012, 09:59 PM

I watched the first half of the game against the Bungals (because I had to go to work, not because I gave uo on them) and I see no heart in any of our receivers, although Brown shows flashes. Wallace just seems to care about his upcoming big contract even though he can't catch half the passes thrown to him. And for those of you who thought Arians sucked so bad, you got your wish . He's gone and Todd Haley is 20 times worse. Never seen more terrible play caslling since Joe Walton.

Millers the sh!t · 12-24-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Stillers2012

Do you people realize that Ben isn't 100% because he is playing beat up. Give the guy a break. If he got all the mercy calls and bs penalties that Brady and the Manning boys get, he woul;d be more dominant than all of them put together.

Move over Daniel Tosh, there is an even funnier man on earth.

ETL · 12-25-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stillers2012

Do you people realize that Ben isn't 100% because he is playing beat up. Give the guy a break. If he got all the mercy calls and bs penalties that Brady and the Manning boys get, he woul;d be more dominant than all of them put together.

Ok. Next time Ben is hurt - just let me know so I can shelve any hopes for Steeler victories because as you see it - losses are ACCEPTABLE because players are hurt. Heck, why even play a game. Just forfeit and let our guys heal, right?

You make excuses as easy as I let out farts.

ZoneBlitzer · 12-25-2012, 01:01 AM

Ben is turning into a latter day Brett Favre. I said the exact thing in another thread. I even heard it from a host on 93.7 the fan.

For me, it comes down to decision making. That's what the position is really about. A veteran QB should not be throwing INTs that costs the team the game in the final seconds. I expect more from Ben. He missed easy opportunities to move the chains by just running. It's those kind of head scratching decisions that are incredibly puzzling. The effort is there but he's not playing smart. He's forcing things and its hurting the club. He needs more help around him. They need to rely less on him and try to get him to just manage the game like he used to do.

Edman · 12-25-2012, 03:18 AM

Like I said in another topic, Ben cannot be trusted running an offense on his own. He is not cerebral enough. He is way too greedy and wants it all on every pass play. "Let Ben be Ben" results in more seasons like this. Like I said the year before last, Arians was only half of the problem with the offense. Ben is the other half.

When Haley put him on the "Short Passing Game" leash earlier this year, he was on pace for his most productive season yet, whenever we let him off the leash and "Let Ben be Ben", he started to stink. It's just not in Ben's head that taking what the D gives you leads to more success. Sandlot is in his blood. It's not going to be coached out of him, it needs to be gameplanned around. "Hey Ben, we did my way, and we've seen your way. We're doing it this way from now on."

It's time to stop fooling ourselves with this guy. He's not a Tom Brady type when he can counted on making smart decisions on his own. The coaching staff has to make the decisions for him. Time for the leash and he's not getting off of it.

Brett Favre only won a single Super Bowl with Green Bay for a reason. If this continues, the Steelers will never sniff #7 until Ben retires.

12-24-2012, 07:52 PM	#1
EbonySteel86 Bench Warmer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 210 Member Number: 20340 Thanks: 213 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Ben=Bret Ben reminds me of Favre so much. He'll make some spectacular plays and on the same drive, break your heart. I saw an interview with Bret. He said he doesn't go threw he's reads. He said he goes from 1 straight to his 4th read. If them 2 not open, he just improvise. THAT'S BEN! Not your prototype, technical QB but a gun slinger. And gun slingers love the long ball. They not about reading defences or checking down or throwing it out of bounds. They ALWAYS try to make SOMETHING happen when nothing is there. Ben is a good Qb but asking him to do something he's not good at doing is risky.

12-24-2012, 09:40 PM	#2
ETL Team President Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,058 Member Number: 14528 Thanks: 28 Thanked 112 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Ben=Bret I somewhat agree with you Brett was much more wild and thus only won 1 Super Bowl. Ben is pretty wild as well - not as cerebral as Brady or Manning. Sometimes it's great to watch but lately it's been more agony. I don't know a better QB that's available now so we are basically stuck with him and its not the worst situation either as he is good enough to win you super bowls __________________

12-24-2012, 09:53 PM	#3
Millers the sh!t Team Captain Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western MA Posts: 728 Gender: Male Member Number: 22201 Thanks: 58 Thanked 80 Times in 61 Posts	Re: Ben=Bret With our defense, we just need a decent game manager like Alex Smith. Get a real running back and let our o line get physical and practice run blocking like we used to 7-8 years ago. __________________ Screw Wallace, throw it to Heath

12-24-2012, 09:56 PM	#4
Stillers2012 Water Boy Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 15 Member Number: 24381 Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Ben=Bret Do you people realize that Ben isn't 100% because he is playing beat up. Give the guy a break. If he got all the mercy calls and bs penalties that Brady and the Manning boys get, he woul;d be more dominant than all of them put together.

12-24-2012, 09:59 PM	#5
Stillers2012 Water Boy Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 15 Member Number: 24381 Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Ben=Bret I watched the first half of the game against the Bungals (because I had to go to work, not because I gave uo on them) and I see no heart in any of our receivers, although Brown shows flashes. Wallace just seems to care about his upcoming big contract even though he can't catch half the passes thrown to him. And for those of you who thought Arians sucked so bad, you got your wish . He's gone and Todd Haley is 20 times worse. Never seen more terrible play caslling since Joe Walton.

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12-25-2012, 01:01 AM	#8
ZoneBlitzer Assistant Coach Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,165 Gender: Male Member Number: 16775 Thanks: 129 Thanked 71 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Ben=Bret Ben is turning into a latter day Brett Favre. I said the exact thing in another thread. I even heard it from a host on 93.7 the fan. For me, it comes down to decision making. That's what the position is really about. A veteran QB should not be throwing INTs that costs the team the game in the final seconds. I expect more from Ben. He missed easy opportunities to move the chains by just running. It's those kind of head scratching decisions that are incredibly puzzling. The effort is there but he's not playing smart. He's forcing things and its hurting the club. He needs more help around him. They need to rely less on him and try to get him to just manage the game like he used to do.

12-25-2012, 03:18 AM	#9
Edman Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,358 Gender: Male Member Number: 3261 Thanks: 35 Thanked 89 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Ben=Bret Like I said in another topic, Ben cannot be trusted running an offense on his own. He is not cerebral enough. He is way too greedy and wants it all on every pass play. "Let Ben be Ben" results in more seasons like this. Like I said the year before last, Arians was only half of the problem with the offense. Ben is the other half. When Haley put him on the "Short Passing Game" leash earlier this year, he was on pace for his most productive season yet, whenever we let him off the leash and "Let Ben be Ben", he started to stink. It's just not in Ben's head that taking what the D gives you leads to more success. Sandlot is in his blood. It's not going to be coached out of him, it needs to be gameplanned around. "Hey Ben, we did my way, and we've seen your way. We're doing it this way from now on." It's time to stop fooling ourselves with this guy. He's not a Tom Brady type when he can counted on making smart decisions on his own. The coaching staff has to make the decisions for him. Time for the leash and he's not getting off of it. Brett Favre only won a single Super Bowl with Green Bay for a reason. If this continues, the Steelers will never sniff #7 until Ben retires. Last edited by Edman; 12-25-2012 at 03:30 AM.

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