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Old 12-25-2012, 01:17 PM   #51
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History doesn't support your position.

Which of these coaches do you want over Tomlin?

Turner
Garrett
Rivera
Ryan
Gailey
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Schiano
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any one of those guys would be just as successful as tomlin if they were handed the same situation
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:41 PM   #52
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I wouldn't fire Tomlin over one bad season, a few more consecutive ones then we'll talk.

Hate to be in his shoes right now, especially in a meeting with the Rooneys. He's gotta have the worst gig in the NFL to meet fan and owner expectations.

I have no issues with the draft picks, I think Colbert has done an excellent job IMO. But Tomlin is a player's coach, not someone you see giving discipline out to the vets.

We'll see what happens next season.
I'm not so sure about the draft picks. Hood, Heyward, Pouncey is decent, but too injury prone, Timmons, good player, not dominent.
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:20 PM   #53
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are the patriots out of the playoffs too because of poor late round draft picks too?
Nope patriots are not out of the playoffs because of poor drafting, they have just been executing and not turning the ball over all the time. I do not get this argument whatsoever.
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:23 PM   #54
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i bet the rooneys new cowher never quit on his team and had them motivated to play although not having a team with lots of talent
Cowher's teams did not have talent? are you serious? take a look at those defenses he coached, that offensive line, running backs, ETC. Only position he failed to address was QB and Wide receivers.

And when did Tomlin quit on his team? I really do not get any of your arguments, can you elaborate?
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:30 PM   #55
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tomlin has drafted the good players, colbert the bad..........
Not my point at all. Colbert does that drafting, based off the scouting team reports and what coaches think are needs. Just wanted to make sure Cowher wasn't being praised for good drafts while Tomlin was being blamed for bad ones.
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:50 PM   #56
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Cowher didn't have talent at QB position until his last 3 years. Winning a Super bowl and 2 AFC title appearances. His last year was debunked because of a moron without a helmet riding the fastest street legal bike in America.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:11 PM   #57
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Cowher's teams did not have talent? are you serious? take a look at those defenses he coached, that offensive line, running backs, ETC. Only position he failed to address was QB and Wide receivers.

And when did Tomlin quit on his team? I really do not get any of your arguments, can you elaborate?
well, the most recent is when he didnt go for a 2pt conversion 3 different times to get us within two scores. i believe he admitted giving up in his presser
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:16 PM   #58
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Tomlin's contract runs through 2016. He'll be around for at least three more years unless something weird happens.
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:14 PM   #59
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Tomlin, Cowher, Tomlin, Cowher.....What this team needs is heart, leadership, commitment. Did anyone catch the foxsports.com article today where Ben shoulders the blame for poor play this year. Wowwww, what a honorable act of a leader within our team. However this year was not his fault .... I did find Tomlin not running to his QB's aid with help in this article and position that is forming that Ben's play is cause. Shockingly in the article Mike simply points out areas where Ben's play could be improved. Ugh....not cool.

''Just not making the critical plays,'' Tomlin said

Need to shoulder some of the heat Tomlin......just my thoughts though.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:44 AM   #60
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I would love to see the question Tomlin was asked for that reply. Was it about Ben specifially? Seems like his answer is his typical generic answer for most questions. If that was his response about a question directed towards Ben then yes, he should shoulder some of the blame. Seems like a flawed line of thinking to be settling to be able to make a comeback.
I found it odd that only 2 players came to ben's defense, Miller and Ryan Clark. While Ben may not have played his best in the 4th quarter the collapse was far from falling solely on him. Drop passes, lack of ball security, horrific ST play, and blown 4th quarter leads all contributed.
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