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Old 12-29-2012, 11:50 AM   #21
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As an opposing fan........................
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:04 PM   #22
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Is it a coincidence that the OP started the Two Draft pick thread, I think not. He must of had his little feelings hurt because he had to take some ribbing from other teams fans. When you are a fan of the Steelers there are going to witch hunts after a mediocre season, get used to it. And as far as if Ben and Tomlin bringing down the franchise, we survived some pretty mediocre QBs and Cowher DID have some losing seasons. I just thank God that the Rooneys are in charge and do not panic every time a season or player does not pan out. Like I have said Tomlin is here for a while UNLESS he decides to call it a career here.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:17 PM   #23
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Ben is a great QB,Tomlin is a Jagoff.I only agree 50%
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:41 PM   #24
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maan...you folks are missing the point...the entire season's 'body of work' gets destroyed by these two stubborn individuals; no one is saying there will not be down years, but when you have the ingredients and opportunity to make something greater and you blow it in the manner that these did....it leaves a bad hangover

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guys i have the answer, SIGN CARSON PALMER!
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:14 PM   #26
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:15 PM   #27
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This is the team that lost to the great Tim Tebow last year in the playoffs...Ben could not do it then either, just like Tomlin...

I guess Tim's in the damn Pro bowl this year, huh? ...couldn't get on the field with the mighty Jets....
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guys i have the answer, SIGN CARSON PALMER!
And while we are at it, let's sign Dennis Allen, and then maybe he will win with "Tomlin's players."
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This is the team that lost to the great Tim Tebow last year in the playoffs...Ben could not do it then either, just like Tomlin...

I guess Tim's in the damn Pro bowl this year, huh? ...couldn't get on the field with the mighty Jets....
I may be fuzzy about that playoff game but i think the pass defense may have had something to do with that game. Tebow 10 completions and 316 yards. Seems to me they gave up the big play big time to a QB that struggled most of the year to put up points, and we gave up 29. But by all means put it all on Ben and Tomlin. It fits your train of thought. if your thoughts was a train wreck.
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Apparently not old enough to remember the '80's.
Guys, I remember the 80's...we didn't have a 100 million dollar qb then (ok...no 50 million dollar guy at those rates) so losing with Stoudt/Malone etc was not unexpected..

Losing with Kent Graham and Mike Tomczak was easier

Kordell's loss in AFC Champ game was tough...and hey, he was benched into 3rd game the next year...Ben is turning out to be the gift that keeps on giving...One SB win btw.. in Cowher's only SB win, Ben threw for 109 yards...Randle El threw that TD to Ward as you all know...

Ben is overrated...he is good, competitive and tough, but not great....I know, it's tough to swallow, but it ought not to be
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