If not Ben, then who? - Page 2

nj1923steelgirl · 12-29-2012, 06:02 PM

BB is our QB he is one of the best in the NFL...right now we could not get anyone close to him.....what we need is a quality back up.

ZoneBlitzer · 12-29-2012, 06:04 PM

I just want a smart Ben. He's got enough years under his belt to not be making the mistakes and bad decisions that he's been making.

That's all. Is that too much to ask for?

Is it too much to ask to hit the open receiver instead of the low percentage 40 yard strike down the field?

Is it too much to ask to hit the check down to keep the offense in rhythm and plays on the positive side?

Is it too much to ask for to run for 1 yard to get a first down to keep drives alive?

Is it too much to ask to throw the ball away or go down on occasion to live for another day?

Ben has all the talent and tools to be a sound and efficient QB. He should not be pressing at this stage in his career. He should not be throwing game-killing INTs in games. You would think his head would be in the game and that he would be able to judge situations better. But he hasn't done that of late.

The core element to the position is decision making. And I expect a QB of his experience to be making good ones.

Neil-Still-Rules-14 · 12-29-2012, 06:24 PM

Hopefully Batch retires, Leftwich sticks around, and they draft a QB in a later round to eventually replace Leftwich.

Ricco Suavez · 12-29-2012, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoneBlitzer

I just want a smart Ben. He's got enough years under his belt to not be making the mistakes and bad decisions that he's been making.

That's all. Is that too much to ask for?

Is it too much to ask to hit the open receiver instead of the low percentage 40 yard strike down the field?

Is it too much to ask to hit the check down to keep the offense in rhythm and plays on the positive side?

Is it too much to ask for to run for 1 yard to get a first down to keep drives alive?

Is it too much to ask to throw the ball away or go down on occasion to live for another day?

Ben has all the talent and tools to be a sound and efficient QB. He should not be pressing at this stage in his career. He should not be throwing game-killing INTs in games. You would think his head would be in the game and that he would be able to judge situations better. But he hasn't done that of late.

The core element to the position is decision making. And I expect a QB of his experience to be making good ones.

None of what you said is too much to ask, but in order for Ben to do most if not all that you want he has to have team mates and coaches that do their job too. Sadly when Ben has done his job others fail him, yet when he fails all anybody sees is just that as his failure. BTW all the situations he is in are not his doing,(some but not all) Haley did him no favors, the lack of a running game did not help either. I expect Haley and Ben to take this year and hopefully put it to better use next season.

PhantomJB93 · 12-29-2012, 06:50 PM

It's the same thing with Tomlin, I think people really forget that half this league fires their coaches routinely looking for somebody half as good as Tomlin. There's not some magical better option out there to replace Tomlin, just as there's not an instant replacement for Ben.

WVABE · 12-29-2012, 07:10 PM

Charlie has another year left in him.

I like Charlie so don't argue with me.

ZoneBlitzer · 12-29-2012, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricco Suavez

None of what you said is too much to ask, but in order for Ben to do most if not all that you want he has to have team mates and coaches that do their job too. Sadly when Ben has done his job others fail him

Yes, this is true to an extent. If there is one thing to be said about the season it is that the team was COMPLETELY out of sync. Eg. Ben makes good throw, player catches then fumble. Defense gets a good stop, offense goes 3 and out (WR drops ball etc.) ST gets a good return, offense goes 3 and out.

None of their play in all phases of the game was complimentary throughout the entire season.

Coaches and players need to really focus on situational football for next season.

Hawaii 5-0 · 12-29-2012, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRH

nobody.

that's exactly what I was going to post if no one else had said it...nobody.

Ben is our QB, I'm willing to sink or swim and live or die with him.

VictoryFormation · 12-29-2012, 08:15 PM

Dan Marino, after he discovers the fountain of youth... which might not happen.

lardlad · 12-29-2012, 08:19 PM

If you can find one better than Ben, sign him up. But you aren't going to.

He is taking a beating here lately, some deserved but be realistic, there are only a few in the league better. I think he needs to see the field better, I always felt that way about him. People make a big deal out of what he can do when the plays breakdown. Many times it is of his own making. I hate to think its the only way he knows how to play, sometimes I wonder.

Take the good with the bad, for the most part it's really good. But to answer the question, I don't think there is a replacement for Ben. Honestly he is the least of our worries.

Again if we re not -14 in turnovers we are in the playoffs. Most of that is not Bens fault.

12-29-2012, 06:02 PM	#11
nj1923steelgirl Draft Prospect Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: East Coast Posts: 112 Gender: Female Member Number: 24521 Thanks: 12 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: If not Ben, then who? BB is our QB he is one of the best in the NFL...right now we could not get anyone close to him.....what we need is a quality back up. __________________ Wave that towel!

12-29-2012, 06:04 PM	#12
ZoneBlitzer Assistant Coach Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,165 Gender: Male Member Number: 16775 Thanks: 129 Thanked 71 Times in 53 Posts	Re: If not Ben, then who? I just want a smart Ben. He's got enough years under his belt to not be making the mistakes and bad decisions that he's been making. That's all. Is that too much to ask for? Is it too much to ask to hit the open receiver instead of the low percentage 40 yard strike down the field? Is it too much to ask to hit the check down to keep the offense in rhythm and plays on the positive side? Is it too much to ask for to run for 1 yard to get a first down to keep drives alive? Is it too much to ask to throw the ball away or go down on occasion to live for another day? Ben has all the talent and tools to be a sound and efficient QB. He should not be pressing at this stage in his career. He should not be throwing game-killing INTs in games. You would think his head would be in the game and that he would be able to judge situations better. But he hasn't done that of late. The core element to the position is decision making. And I expect a QB of his experience to be making good ones.

12-29-2012, 06:24 PM	#13
Neil-Still-Rules-14 Team Captain Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 671 Gender: Male Member Number: 1048 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 16 Posts	Re: If not Ben, then who? Hopefully Batch retires, Leftwich sticks around, and they draft a QB in a later round to eventually replace Leftwich.

12-29-2012, 06:50 PM	#15
PhantomJB93 Assistant Coach Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,401 Gender: Male Member Number: 13907 Thanks: 24 Thanked 99 Times in 67 Posts	Re: If not Ben, then who? It's the same thing with Tomlin, I think people really forget that half this league fires their coaches routinely looking for somebody half as good as Tomlin. There's not some magical better option out there to replace Tomlin, just as there's not an instant replacement for Ben.

12-29-2012, 07:10 PM	#16
WVABE Bench Warmer Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 377 Member Number: 24111 Thanks: 117 Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts	Re: If not Ben, then who? Charlie has another year left in him. I like Charlie so don't argue with me.

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12-29-2012, 08:15 PM	#19
VictoryFormation Draft Prospect Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 91 Gender: Male Member Number: 20598 Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Re: If not Ben, then who? Dan Marino, after he discovers the fountain of youth... which might not happen.

12-29-2012, 08:19 PM	#20
lardlad Bench Warmer Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 236 Member Number: 10897 Thanks: 108 Thanked 22 Times in 14 Posts	Re: If not Ben, then who? If you can find one better than Ben, sign him up. But you aren't going to. He is taking a beating here lately, some deserved but be realistic, there are only a few in the league better. I think he needs to see the field better, I always felt that way about him. People make a big deal out of what he can do when the plays breakdown. Many times it is of his own making. I hate to think its the only way he knows how to play, sometimes I wonder. Take the good with the bad, for the most part it's really good. But to answer the question, I don't think there is a replacement for Ben. Honestly he is the least of our worries. Again if we re not -14 in turnovers we are in the playoffs. Most of that is not Bens fault.

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