If not Ben, then who?

[casteeler]

Originally Posted by lloydwoodson

THREE rookie quarterbacks are taking their teams to the playoffs if RGIII pulls out a win today.

Ben isn't as hard to replace as you'd all like to pretend.

Ben's offense put up 23 ppg or less in all but one season in his career.

It doesn't matter who the coaches are. Ben is Ben.

Ben is great and our franchise QB. He has made some of the greatest throws/plays in Steeler history but I agree 100% with comment that Ben wouldn't be as hard to replace as everyone believes. The Steelers problems start with poor coaching and end with bad execution and Ben deserves less blame for this worse than our record indicated season than some think. A running game would have helped a ton and I hate to piss in everyone's Cheerios but the Offensive line still sucks

[lloydwoodson]

Originally Posted by austinfrench76

The answer IS Ben but he does need to refind his clutch game as someone pointed out the other day. He has been bad in the clutch lately and that kills us!!!!!!

Maybe all he needs to do is buy into the system Haley has provided, realise he will never be Peyton Manning, stop being an attention-***** primadonna and play football.

[Ricco Suavez]

Originally Posted by lloydwoodson

*Scratches head* I thought our D only allowed 10 points?

Could have been a tie game there in the 4th as I mentioned.

Thankfully we won this squeaker at home against the Cleveland Browns and their 3rd string rookie qb.

Couldn't have won without Ben! M-V-P! M-V-P!

What was our record when Ben was out for 4 games a couple seasons back? I forget. Oh wait... 3-1.

Steelers are nothing without Ben!!!!! Oh wait... 6-7 lifetime without Ben.

The Steelers are a .500 team without Ben!!!!

Hmm they were a .500 team this year too.

The Steelers are a .500 team with Ben!!!!!

M-V-P! M-V-P! M-V-P!

I for one am not touting Ben as the be all and end all of the Steelers, but I do know he is far from being the be all and end all of this current teams issues. You say Ben should buy into Haleys system , well he just did for 13 games and the results are in. Maybe its time for Haley to quit being muleheaded and try something else. I admit after 9 games it appeared to be working and you can look back at my posts and I even said so. I also said that I thought Haley was too conservative and had forgotten the long ball. Defenses tightened the coverage off the line on our small receivers and they had difficulty getting open. Heath was the only receiver that consistently got open off the line. Ben is NOT Peyton, neither is anyone else, so sorry we did not sign him this off season for your personal gratification. As far as the defense they have played well nearly all year other than the first 4-5 games, even better than I anticipated (once again you can look at former posts and I have said so numerous times) but YOU are the one who made the comment how good the Rookie looked and I will have to say he looked good against our defense today, now was it our #1 defense or was he really that good, you tell me?

[Ricco Suavez]

6-7 without 86-39 with 3 SBs 2 Lombardis. 25 years between SB wins. Hopefully not another 25 years til next but with some great thinking around here I could see it.

[GoFor7]

Originally Posted by Ricco Suavez

Ben is NOT Peyton, neither is anyone else, so sorry we did not sign him this off season for your personal gratification.

If Peyton Manning was the QB of the Steelers, yinzer nation would still find excuses to run him out of town.

Not sure I'd want him anyways. Getting old and has a bad record in the playoffs. Given how much awe there is over him in the media, I think it's rather damning he's only won 1 super bowl.

Besides, he threw a pick six in a super bowl. So he must be a bum deep down.

[AndyWitmyer]

If not Ben? A 4-12 record

[Quackjack]

I'll wait.

Throw Tomlin in there to.

[lipps83]

Originally Posted by Quackjack

I'll wait.

Throw Tomlin in there to.

I know, I know!

Tom Brady can replace Ben.

Belicheck can replace Tomlin.

DONE.

[lloydwoodson]

Originally Posted by Ricco Suavez

6-7 without 86-39 with 3 SBs 2 Lombardis. 25 years between SB wins. Hopefully not another 25 years til next but with some great thinking around here I could see it.

Yeah, the Steelers could never have won anything without Ben's 20th ranked scoring offenses.

Steelers were 39-22 with Neil O'Donnell.

46-29 with Kordell Stewart.

The Steelers have shown an ability to win with any qb not named Tommy Maddox.

How much credit do the qbs deserve? How much credit does the team deserve?

Why don't you hop off Ben's jock for a minute- the man needs some air.

[Quackjack]

Originally Posted by lipps83

I know, I know!

Tom Brady can replace Ben.

Belicheck can replace Tomlin.

DONE.

Warm the stake boys!