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Old 12-31-2012, 06:50 PM   #31
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Default Re: Lovie Smith Fired - Let's Grab Him as Defensive Coordinator

What about Keith Butler? He has been groomed to take over once LeBeau retires; Keith Butler is also used to running the 3-4 Defense, Lovie Smith runs the 4-3. I would love to have Lovie Smith as a D.C, but I wouldn't snub Keith Butler. Remember, the Steelers normally build within, promote within as well. The only exception seems to be when they hire a Head Coach. They went outside the organization last year and brought in Todd Haley, we all see how that turned out. Years ago, they went outside the organization and brought in a guy named Joe Walton, what a disaster! Remember the O/C they hired from Minnesota years ago? I think his name was Sherman Lewis, a disaster as well. Promote from within; now, if Lovie Smith was hired as a LB Coach, learned the system for a couple of seasons, then I would be ok with that.
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:51 PM   #32
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I'm not sure how Lebeau isn't aggressive. Some of you make it sound like 90 % of the ddfensive snaps were with a 10 yard cushion from the db's. Truth of the matter is 60 % probably weren't. Lebeau is still the best defensive mind in the game.
That accusation comes from the fact that Harrison and Woodley were dropping into coverage a lot. It also stems from the fact the DBs are told to "tackle the catch" rather than try to jump a route and pick off a pass.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:46 PM   #33
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I don't discredit the fact that the db's are talk to keep the ball in front and make the tackle......make them drive the length of the field. I would like to see the db's make a play on the ball as well. I still think pressure on the QB can help with this as well.
Woodley and Harrison have dropped into coverage quite often. Neither get to the QB anymore so often times they would send the buck blitz. To me not being aggressive is only rushing 3. The Steelers have done that but all teams do.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:13 PM   #34
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What about Keith Butler? He has been groomed to take over once LeBeau retires; Keith Butler is also used to running the 3-4 Defense, Lovie Smith runs the 4-3. I would love to have Lovie Smith as a D.C, but I wouldn't snub Keith Butler. Remember, the Steelers normally build within, promote within as well. The only exception seems to be when they hire a Head Coach. They went outside the organization last year and brought in Todd Haley, we all see how that turned out. Years ago, they went outside the organization and brought in a guy named Joe Walton, what a disaster! Remember the O/C they hired from Minnesota years ago? I think his name was Sherman Lewis, a disaster as well. Promote from within; now, if Lovie Smith was hired as a LB Coach, learned the system for a couple of seasons, then I would be ok with that.
Butler is promised the job....Why? i don't know....
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:17 PM   #35
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Butler is promised the job....Why? i don't know....


Butler is on the "hit list" of many NFL teams for a defensive coordinator job. They're fully aware that he's somewhat lying in wait.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit to see someone snatch him THIS offseason. If he's offered a job - he'll take it. You don't, or can't, rely on "promises". This might be the one move this offseason that will really tick Steelers fans off - though they won't be able to do anything about it.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:49 PM   #36
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Honestly, if Lovie Smith would sign on as DC he would be a great pickup.

As much as I love LeBeau he is 75 years old.

The personnel exist for a 4-3 defense.

Woodley Hood McLendon Heyward w/ Worilds, Keisel (probably expendable in a 4-3) roatating in.

Spence Foote Timmons (really hoping Teo falls - I still think Sylvester deserves a shot)

All in all I would prefer Lebeau sticks with the team until he is 90, but when he leaves I hope he leaves the Steelers in a good position for the future.
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Roethlisberger 2011 20 ppg 2012 21 ppg


Conclusion: Seeing that only Rodgers offensive production changed significantly, if a team wants to score more points they are better off with a new quarterback than a new coordinator.

stats are for losers

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no wonder Ben said - "fuck it - I'll just stay home and play with the baby, I'm done with this dink&dunk bitch"
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I believe last year teams were allowed to talk with bulter but he didn't take any offers. I'm sure the Rooneys have told him once dl leaves your our guy.
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I believe last year teams were allowed to talk with bulter but he didn't take any offers. I'm sure the Rooneys have told him once dl leaves your our guy.
Well the defense has been a top 10 defense for 13 consecutive seasons.

That is pretty damn good.

The front office will make the proper decision on defense just as they have made the proper decision with the direction of the offense.
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What is with these people calling for Lebeau's head? My lord, the problem was not with this defense this year. We finished number one overall AGAIN, for chrissakes. We lost to the Bengals in a game where they did absolutely nothing on offense, 13-10. Lebeau can run the D for as long as he wants.
I don't think anyone is calling for his head. Just making suggestions if he retires or leaves the team.
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