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Old 12-31-2012, 03:35 PM   #11
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Steelers need to get a new brain for Ben.
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:39 PM   #12
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It wouldn't surprise me if Ben thinks likewise about Haley.
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:54 PM   #13
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If Tomlin went 45-51, he'd be out of here and these forums would want him exiled from Pittsburgh. But, Whisenhunt does it and we want him as our head coach? I don't even understand.
But Tomlin has no control over his players or team!! It's all his fault!! Whisenhunt will bring an iron fist down upon this organization and we'll never lose another game!!
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But Tomlin has no control over his players or team!! It's all his fault!! Whisenhunt will bring an iron fist down upon this organization and we'll never lose another game!!
I'd imagine that some people think this way which is sad.
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But Tomlin has no control over his players or team!! It's all his fault!! Whisenhunt will bring an iron fist down upon this organization and we'll never lose another game!!



He sure did a good job at doing that in Arizona, while Tomlin obviously sucks since he didn't go to the playoffs every year.
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:18 PM   #16
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Sorry guys - it is the same underachieving offense year after year. The offensive coordinators are variables - the quarterback is the constant.

Top quarterbacks with new coordinators last year and the ppg their offenses produced:

Roethlisberger 2011 20 ppg 2012 21 ppg

Tom Brady 2011 32 ppg 2012 35 ppg

Matt Ryan 2011 25 ppg 2012 26 ppg

Cutler 2011 22 ppg 2012 23 ppg

P Manning 2010 27 ppg 2012 30 ppg

Rivers 2011 25 ppg 2012 22 ppg

Flacco 2011 24 ppg 2012 25 ppg

Romo 2011 23 ppg 2012 23 ppg

Rodgers 2011 35 ppg 2012 27 ppg

Conclusion: Seeing that only Rodgers offensive production changed significantly, if a team wants to score more points they are better off with a new quarterback than a new coordinator.
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:26 PM   #17
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Sorry guys - it is the same underachieving offense year after year. The offensive coordinators are variables - the quarterback is the constant.

Top quarterbacks with new coordinators last year and the ppg their offenses produced:

Roethlisberger 2011 20 ppg 2012 21 ppg

Tom Brady 2011 32 ppg 2012 35 ppg

Matt Ryan 2011 25 ppg 2012 26 ppg

Cutler 2011 22 ppg 2012 23 ppg

P Manning 2010 27 ppg 2012 30 ppg

Rivers 2011 25 ppg 2012 22 ppg

Flacco 2011 24 ppg 2012 25 ppg

Romo 2011 23 ppg 2012 23 ppg

Rodgers 2011 35 ppg 2012 27 ppg

Conclusion: Seeing that only Rodgers offensive production changed significantly, if a team wants to score more points they are better off with a new quarterback than a new coordinator.
Nothing new here move along folks. Same old tired routine, you sure you were'nt in Vaudeville?
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Sorry guys - it is the same underachieving offense year after year. The offensive coordinators are variables - the quarterback is the constant.

Top quarterbacks with new coordinators last year and the ppg their offenses produced:

Roethlisberger 2011 20 ppg 2012 21 ppg

Tom Brady 2011 32 ppg 2012 35 ppg

Matt Ryan 2011 25 ppg 2012 26 ppg

Cutler 2011 22 ppg 2012 23 ppg

P Manning 2010 27 ppg 2012 30 ppg

Rivers 2011 25 ppg 2012 22 ppg

Flacco 2011 24 ppg 2012 25 ppg

Romo 2011 23 ppg 2012 23 ppg

Rodgers 2011 35 ppg 2012 27 ppg

Conclusion: Seeing that only Rodgers offensive production changed significantly, if a team wants to score more points they are better off with a new quarterback than a new coordinator.
All those teams you mentioned aren't obsessed with ball control offenses - they actually try to score. I keep telling you that, but you seem incapable of understanding.

This is yinzer nation in the offseason:

"Ben don't gotta throw da ball more den 20 times! Gotta run da ball! Gotta rest da defense! Da stillerz dun't need ta score more points cuz da stiller defense will be well-rested!"

This is yinzer nation after a close loss:

"BEN WHY DIDN'T YINZ DO MORE! YINZ STINK! YINZ GOTTA SCORE MORE POINTS! BOOOOOOOOO!"

Don't demand the offense play ball-control and then go on demanding more points. Want more points? Gotta make some quick strikes and not worry about protecting the defense all the time.
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:30 PM   #19
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LOL. He's done a bang-up job so far in Arizona, right? Going 4-0 and then dropping 11 of the next 12 games? I know what you're saying, "it's an anomaly!" Well, he's had two - count 'em, two - above .500 seasons since he's been head coach of the Cardinals. Since 2010 he's 18-30 or .375. Since he's been the head coach of them since '07, he's 45-51.

But don't let facts get in your way.
Looking at the franchise he coached, this is about as good as it gets!
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All those teams you mentioned aren't obsessed with ball control offenses - they actually try to score. I keep telling you that, but you seem incapable of understanding.

This is yinzer nation in the offseason:

"Ben don't gotta throw da ball more den 20 times! Gotta run da ball! Gotta rest da defense! Da stillerz dun't need ta score more points cuz da stiller defense will be well-rested!"

This is yinzer nation after a close loss:

"BEN WHY DIDN'T YINZ DO MORE! YINZ STINK! YINZ GOTTA SCORE MORE POINTS! BOOOOOOOOO!"

Don't demand the offense play ball-control and then go on demanding more points. Want more points? Gotta make some quick strikes and not worry about protecting the defense all the time.
How come no one on this board can process simple information? The point isn't that Ben's offenses consistently produce fewer points than other top qbs.

THE POINT IS THAT EVERY QB WHO GOT A NEW OC THIS YEAR PRODUCED THE SAME NUMBER OF POINTS THEY DID LAST YEAR!

THE QB IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OFFENSE MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE!
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