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Old 08-15-2006, 04:51 PM   #11
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Default Re: Difference between Ben and Carson Palmer

I thought this was a joke:

What's the difference between Ben and Carson Palmer?

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Old 08-15-2006, 05:04 PM   #12
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I have to disagree for two reasons.

Physically: The knee injury Palmer sustained was absolutey horrible. This wasn't a tweaked hammie. This kid's whole knee was blown out. That takes time and I don't care who you are, yes even Ben. Ben's injuries were to his face. For the most part, those can be protected. Your leg (unlike your face) is out in the open for everybody to hit while having minimal protection.

More importantly.......

Mentally: Ben's accident was exactly that, an accident. It did not occur while playing the game. There is a huge difference between the two in my opinion. Palmer's mind is currently playing tricks on him. Being able to feel comfortable in the pocket is key and at this point in time, he is not comfortable. You could tell in his face during the interview he gave on Sunday night that his confidence is nonexistent. If I were the Bungal organization I would give this kid all the time he needs to heal physically and mentally.

I don't feel the differences lie in their personalities, but in their current situations.

Just my two cents.
Completely agree. Not wanting to rush back from an "unheard of" recovery is not a weakness. The entire Bengal Organization rides on this kid's shoulders. Not taking a slower and cautious approach is potentially suicidal in my eyes. As much as I hate the Bengals a major set-back could ruin his career - not unlike Troy he is one of the good ones in the NFL.

My advice to Marvin Lewis. Play Anthony Wright for the first half of the season.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:11 PM   #13
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Completely agree. Not wanting to rush back from an "unheard of" recovery is not a weakness. The entire Bengal Organization rides on this kid's shoulders. Not taking a slower and cautious approach is potentially suicidal in my eyes. As much as I hate the Bengals a major set-back could ruin his career - not unlike Troy he is one of the good ones in the NFL.

My advice to Marvin Lewis. Play Anthony Wright for the first half of the season.
The Begals have a bye week 5. I bet they hold him back until then to utilize the extra week of healing before they throw him in the mix. Course the urgency of playing him could be delayed if Wright can pull a Roethlisberger.
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I totally agree with 83. Well said bro. You the man. If I were the Bengals also I would give all the time that Carson needed to get his head right. Why risk the franchise? Marvin Lewis suggesting that Carson needs get out there is crazy.
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I'm just gonna say I agree wit 83-Steelers-43 since he said it best.

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The Begals have a bye week 5. I bet they hold him back until then to utilize the extra week of healing before they throw him in the mix. Course the urgency of playing him could be delayed if Wright can pull a Roethlisberger.
Well dont forget that this is the Bungles we are talking about. So the likely hood of that happening are about the same as the stains winning the division!
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Well dont forget that this is the Bungles we are talking about. So the likely hood of that happening are about the same as the stains winning the division!
Carson wants to play in the third and fourth preseason games...if this happens, and he feels comfortable, he will be starting in the opener. If he doesn't play in any preseason games, he won't be playing until after the bye week.

Ultimately, Palmer's return is up to him...Marvin and Co. can advise him when to play, but the final decision is his. Marvin wanted him to play in the 2nd preseason game, but Palmer wants to give himself another week to prepare. Carson seems to be a level-headed guy, I would think he would only return when he feels 100% ready.
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I have to disagree for two reasons.

Physically: The knee injury Palmer sustained was absolutey horrible. This wasn't a tweaked hammie. This kid's whole knee was blown out. That takes time and I don't care who you are, yes even Ben. Ben's injuries were to his face. For the most part, those can be protected. Your leg (unlike your face) is out in the open for everybody to hit while having minimal protection.

More importantly.......

Mentally: Ben's accident was exactly that, an accident. It did not occur while playing the game. There is a huge difference between the two in my opinion. Palmer's mind is currently playing tricks on him. Being able to feel comfortable in the pocket is key and at this point in time, he is not comfortable. You could tell in his face during the interview he gave on Sunday night that his confidence is nonexistent. If I were the Bungal organization I would give this kid all the time he needs to heal physically and mentally.

I don't feel the differences lie in their personalities, but in their current situations.

Just my two cents.

Must admit, that is some strong evidence. Must agree.
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i dont think personality has anything to do with it, bens accident was worse than palmers but palmers injury was worse than bens. you are acting like confidents doesnt matter when your playing qb. i think john madden said something like if u are a qb u have to trust your o-line for protection and not worry about the blitzes, and palmer said he cant do that, when he feels someone near him he wants to look at his leg and you cant do that. you need to be looking downfield. ben.... well, im pretty sure he is used to his knee injury that he has had for the last two seasons and he doesnt have to look downfield for a pass as much as palmer so he's not going to get sacked as much.(ben only throws max of 300 times.)
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Wright is much more likely to pull a Maddox IMO.
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