Why register with the Steelers Fever Forums?
 • Intelligent and friendly discussions.
 • It's free and it's quick. Always.
 • Enter events in the forums calendar.
 • Very user friendly software.
 • Exclusive contests and giveaways.

 Donate to Steelers Fever, Click here
 Our 2013 Goal: $400.00 - To Date: $00.00 (00.00%)
 Home | Forums | Editorials | Shop | Tickets | Downloads | Contact Pittsburgh Steelers Forum Feed Not Just Fans. Hardcore Fans.

Go Back   Steelers Fever Forums > Steelers Football > Pittsburgh Steelers


Steelers Fever Fan Shop

Doc's Sports Get FREE NFL Picks and College Football picks as well as Football Lines like live NFL Lines and updated NFL Power Rankings all at Doc's Sports Service.

Steelers Steelers - Giants Giants
August 9th, 2014, 7:30pmET

CBS
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-16-2013, 11:00 PM   #1
Hawaii 5-0
Armchair QB
Supporter
 
Hawaii 5-0's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: The Aloha State
Posts: 8,439
Gender: Male
Member Number: 24013
Thanks: 7,018
Thanked 9,423 Times in 4,018 Posts
My Mood: Cool
Default Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

Gerry: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Brown?

WEDNESDAY, 16 JANUARY 2013 WRITTEN BY GERRY DULAC

When Mike Wallace did not report with the rest of his teammates on the first day of training camp, the Steelers wasted little time reacting to his holdout: They called Antonio Brown’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, and summoned him to Latrobe as fast as they could.

Within two days, the Steelers and Rosenhaus had crafted a new contract for Brown – a six-year extension worth $42.5 million, a big number for a player who was considered the No. 2 receiver and was entering just his third season in the league.

But, with that signing, the Steelers were telling Wallace and just about anyone else that they considered Brown, not Wallace, their No. 1 receiver.

That signing, that decision, is the reason the Steelers will not be able to re-sign Wallace, who is an unrestricted free agent. If they consider Brown to be their No. 1 receiver – and his signing would certainly suggest that – then the Steelers are not going to sign Wallace to a contract bigger than the one they gave Brown. Their pay structure doesn’t operate that way.

Wallace already rejected a contract larger than that during last offseason. He is not going to accept anything less right now, even after a season in which he did not register the number of big plays to which he is accustomed.

So did the Steelers react emotionally and make a rash decision to hurriedly sign Brown?

An argument could be made to suggest they did.

Here’s why:

The Steelers signed Brown to a big contract extension because he was coming off a season in which he became the first player in NFL history to have 1,000 receiving yards and 1,000 return yards in the same season. Brown also made the Pro Bowl as a return specialist.

Also, Brown looked to be the better and more productive receiver than Wallace in the second half of the 2011 season. He had 51 of his 69 catches and 846 of his 1,108 receiving yards in the final 10 games of the season. Wallace, meantime, had only 19 catches for 271 yards in the final six games.

But there was a reason for that.

When it became apparent to the coaches that Hines Ward could no longer be an effective receiver, the Steelers moved Brown to the split end, or X, position in their offense because he did not know the plays or assignments at Ward’s position – flanker. Split end is more of a big-play position with deeper routes and opportunities for more catches. The Steelers moved Wallace to flanker (or Z receiver), where he had more inside routes and blocking assignments.

Not surprisingly, Brown’s production increased and Wallace’s decreased. This year, the Steelers moved Wallace back to the split-end position, and he finished as their most targeted receiver. He finished with 64 catches and tied for the team lead with eight TDs.

Brown finished with 66 catches and only five TDs, but he was never really the same late in the season after missing three games with a high-ankle sprain.

Now, the Steelers are poised to lose Wallace, who is one of the few receivers in the league who can run past any defensive back, no matter the coverage. And their receiving corps will suffer a big setback. There is still some question if Brown is really a No. 1 receiver.

Could this have been avoided if the Steelers didn’t make such a rash decision? Perhaps. Then again, the Steelers felt as though they would never be able to meet Wallace’s contract demands and decided to make sure they would at least get one of their top receivers under contract.

Either way, what happened in July will go a long way toward impacting what will happen now.

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/i...-to-sign-brown
__________________
Hawaii 5-0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 11:13 PM   #2
lloydwoodson
Head Coach
 
lloydwoodson's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 1,537
Gender: Male
Member Number: 23495
Thanks: 708
Thanked 403 Times in 272 Posts
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

The Steelers absolutely overpaid Brown versus what he had actually produced to that point. Brown is still a very good receiver but I pointed out he got almost exactly the same contract as Brandon Marshall who is a guaranteed 100 catch 10 td receiver.

I am not going to bother comparing his salary to other receivers but I do recall his wage is very generous. All in all Brown's attitude is refreshing (minus walking into the end zone backwards on the punt return that was called back). Brown will be a solid 80 catch 6-8 td receiver for years to come.

I just hope they can re-sign Wallace. He had one terrible game vs Cincinatti now everyone hates him.
lloydwoodson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 04:57 AM   #3
steeltheone
Living Legend
Supporter
 
steeltheone's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Harrisburg Pa.
Posts: 3,277
Gender: Male
Member Number: 6351
Thanks: 196
Thanked 291 Times in 178 Posts
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

I also agree that they overpaid Brown. He is a good number 2. They are pretty easy to find.
__________________
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." - Vince Lombardi
steeltheone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 05:58 AM   #4
wwhickok
Starter
 
wwhickok's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Williamsport, PA
Posts: 426
Gender: Male
Member Number: 24713
Thanks: 9
Thanked 27 Times in 22 Posts
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydwoodson View Post
The Steelers absolutely overpaid Brown versus what he had actually produced to that point. Brown is still a very good receiver but I pointed out he got almost exactly the same contract as Brandon Marshall who is a guaranteed 100 catch 10 td receiver.

I am not going to bother comparing his salary to other receivers but I do recall his wage is very generous. All in all Brown's attitude is refreshing (minus walking into the end zone backwards on the punt return that was called back). Brown will be a solid 80 catch 6-8 td receiver for years to come.

I just hope they can re-sign Wallace. He had one terrible game vs Cincinatti now everyone hates him.
First of all that couldn't be further from the truth.


The hatred for Wallace started vs. Denver last season when he had a couple huge drops in the playoff game. Since that time he has held out, been selfish, admitted he isn't focused, had several drops inluding some that played significNt roles in games..

Wallace put himself where he is with the fans. As for brown, did they over pay? Probably but all of our receivers had a bad season so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I like brown a lot and I am glad we kept him.
__________________
The Stong Conquer the Weak, The Mighty Make the Rules -- self-written.
wwhickok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 06:41 AM   #5
Vis
In Hoc
Supporter
 
Vis's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SC
Posts: 7,256
Gender: Male
Member Number: 5117
Thanks: 539
Thanked 4,165 Times in 2,143 Posts
My Mood: Innocent
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

Every hurt player is overpaid by this type of thinking. Ben was overpaid. Troy was. DeCastro certainly was.
__________________


All generalizations are dangerous.
Vis is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 06:50 AM   #6
Kingmagyar
Team Captain
 

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 934
Gender: Male
Member Number: 16118
Thanks: 12
Thanked 196 Times in 105 Posts
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

In no way is Brown making anywhere near Brandon Marshall money. His contract since it was an extension that included his last year is actually a reasonable amount of money to pay a 1,000 yard+ receiver who would have had those numbers again if not for injury. He is an incredible hard worker and will only get even better. His hands to make the catch are phenomenal . Besides where would they be now without his signing. Wallace gone, and Brown restricted and possibly leaving after the year? Brown's money would have only been even higher had they waited.

The guy had like 3 returns for TDs called back this year and he was the best receiver on the team.

I think it's one of the best moves they have ever made breaking protocol and signing someone when they were only a RFA. They may try to do the same with E Sanders but for not nearly as much.

Last edited by Kingmagyar; 01-18-2013 at 05:14 AM.
Kingmagyar is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Kingmagyar For This Useful Post:
SteelCity4Life (01-17-2013)
Old 01-17-2013, 07:12 AM   #7
ETL
Team President
Supporter
 
ETL's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,232
Member Number: 14528
Thanks: 72
Thanked 298 Times in 148 Posts
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

If brown plays as he did 2 years ago, this deal is a bargain.

For now I wouldn't be so stupid to proclaim that the Steelers overpaid a guy just after 1 year into the deal. If he has a great season next year - there will be a parade of "eating crow" posts by these premature ejaculators.

It still needs to be seen whether we over paid him or not but I for one am glad that he will be on the team next year.
__________________
ETL is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ETL For This Useful Post:
teegre (01-17-2013), TRH (01-17-2013)
Old 01-17-2013, 07:46 AM   #8
teegre
Living Legend
Supporter
 
teegre's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 12,954
Member Number: 24108
Thanks: 16,826
Thanked 17,902 Times in 7,561 Posts
My Mood: Dead
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

Quote:
Originally Posted by steeltheone View Post
I also agree that they overpaid Brown. He is a good number 2. They are pretty easy to find.
The amount that AB is being paid IS #2 money. So, Yes, it's perfect.
teegre is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to teegre For This Useful Post:
TRH (01-17-2013)
Old 01-17-2013, 08:02 AM   #9
kan_t
Assistant Coach
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,170
Member Number: 21653
Thanks: 292
Thanked 579 Times in 321 Posts
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

It's just the first year of his new deal and without the injury he would still be on pace to have a 1000 receving yards season. There is no rush to draw the conclusion about whether the Steelers overpay him.
kan_t is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kan_t For This Useful Post:
SteelCity4Life (01-17-2013)
Old 01-17-2013, 08:43 AM   #10
Darkstorm05
Team Captain
 
Darkstorm05's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 829
Gender: Male
Member Number: 19897
Thanks: 7
Thanked 69 Times in 46 Posts
Default Re: Did Steelers make a rash decision to sign Antonio Brown?

Wow. Brown being compared unfavorably to Wallace when the guy was badly injured for a third of the season? Maybe it's time to go hibernate until draft week.
Darkstorm05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.0.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Navbar with Avatar by Motorradforum
no new posts