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Old 08-17-2006, 07:16 PM   #31
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Default Re: carson palmer- fish or cut bait!

When comparing the relative 'softness' of Carson and Ben it seems pretty obvious to me that we are dealing with the mental aspects of the injury as much as the physical.

Now, Carson must be thinking thats its reasonably likely that he could suffer another such injury - he plays football on a regular basis and his injury occured on a football field.

As a professional football player you could say that there is not much he can do to remove himself from the danger of a repeat injury.

Alot of the factors that led to his accident are out of his control.

Ben got his injuries because he rode a high powered motorcycle with no helmet.

Ben is also a football player and not a professional motorcycle rider - therefore it is entirely possible he will never have a similar accident - all he has to do is wear a helmet or better yet dont ride a high powered motorcycle.

Seems to me that the only things these guys have in common is that are both QB's in the AFCN - other than that its apples and oranges.

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Old 08-17-2006, 07:17 PM   #32
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Well Tony and I agree about a 12 month recovery time so we must be right. I think we should start charging for sports medicine consults.*



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Old 08-17-2006, 07:28 PM   #33
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When comparing the relative 'softness' of Carson and Ben it seems pretty obvious to me that we are dealing with the mental aspects of the injury as much as the physical.

Now, Carson must be thinking thats its reasonably likely that he could suffer another such injury - he plays football on a regular basis and his injury occured on a football field.

As a professional football player you could say that there is not much he can do to remove himself from the danger of a repeat injury.

Alot of the factors that led to his accident are out of his control.

Ben got his injuries because he rode a high powered motorcycle with no helmet.

Ben is also a football player and not a professional motorcycle rider - therefore it is entirely possible he will never have a similar accident - all he has to do is wear a helmet or better yet dont ride a high powered motorcycle.

Seems to me that the only things these guys have in common is that are both QB's in the AFCN - other than that its apples and oranges.

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yeah, because qb's always get hit in the knee but never get hit in the head.

just tell that to t. aikman, k. collins, (jaw) s. young, or t. aikman, (concussion) as i toss this argument out the window. and its pretty stupid to assume ben could be in a motorcycle (or car or pedestrian) accident with a helmet and not sustain injuries. (out of his control)
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:30 PM   #34
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What was the final word on what level of brain injury Ben sustained?
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:33 PM   #35
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What was the final word on what level of brain injury Ben sustained?
Last I heard it was M.I.A.

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Old 08-17-2006, 07:34 PM   #36
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Well Tony and I agree about a 12 month recovery time so we must be right. I think we should start charging for sports medicine consults.*



*(Hawk Believer and Tony Hipchest are not "licensed" "medical" "doctors". Consult your doctor before believing any of their advice. Listening to them may lead to upset stomach, head aches, dry mouth, anal fissures, male breast development, and pink eye.)
your take was spot on. and litp can recheck my take in post #25 in regards as "softness" goes and mentally recovering from an accident. an injury is an injury, not apples and oranges.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:39 PM   #37
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Last I heard it was M.I.A.

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let me guess... he couldnt spell cat isf you spotted him the A or the T. zzzzzzzzzzzz. how'd that work out for hollywood henderson with the vial of coke in his jersey pants? if ben were smart hed lay off the bikes and seek "work out" tips from bonds trainer huh?
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yeah, because qb's always get hit in the knee but never get hit in the head.

just tell that to t. aikman, k. collins, (jaw) s. young, or t. aikman, (concussion) as i toss this argument out the window. and its pretty stupid to assume ben could be in a motorcycle (or car or pedestrian) accident with a helmet and not sustain injuries. (out of his control)
Im pretty sure that Bens injuries were caused by going headfirst into the windscreen of an automobile - unless he is unfortunate to come across any Mascots with road rage I doubt he will 'facing' that situation again.

Entirely preventable you see?

Sure Ben might we get hit in the head area during a football game - thats why they wear helmets - large, fast cars is also the reason they suggest wearing helmets on a 190mph motorcycle.

One has to wonder...if it wasn't 'football law' would Ben wear a helmet in a football game - or would the 'rush' of having a LBer take his head off just prove to much of a draw?

In any case, I suggested that Bens injuries would not have happened had he wore that helmet - I really dont think I suggested anywhere that he would not have sustained any injuries at all.

Hope that helps.

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let me guess... he couldnt spell cat isf you spotted him the A or the T. zzzzzzzzzzzz. how'd that work out for hollywood henderson with the vial of coke in his jersey pants? if ben were smart hed lay off the bikes and seek "work out" tips from bonds trainer huh?
Ok...I got the 'let me guess' part - the rest is just a mish-mash of unintelligible button pushing.

Did you hit your head off the keyboard again?

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Old 08-17-2006, 07:49 PM   #40
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Ok...I got the 'let me guess' part - the rest is just a mish-mash of unintelligible button pushing.

Did you hit your head off the keyboard again?

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hardwork????

(i shouldve known better than to use pre 80's football references with you.)
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