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Old 01-06-2013, 08:46 PM   #21
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Default Re: Steelers Badly Need A Feature RB in 2013

RB's can be had late in the draft and we should continue to take 1 each year late until we find a winner.
For every AP or Richardson taken in the first round, there is an Arian Foster or Alfred Morris taken late or undrafted that pans out just as well. Or there is a Mendy or Mark Ingram taken in the first who haven't fared nearly as well.
The running game is all about line play. No way I take a #1 pick on a back unless I'm totally sold he's a can't miss bell cow back for a long while. Backs now last 5 or 6 years now and you can almost count on your starter going down at some point. Stable of backs is the way to go. Our young line should start to gel and our running game will improve with it.
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Sign Joique Bell from the Lions. He runs with power and has great hands out of the backfield. Feature him with spells of Dwyer and Rainey
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:32 PM   #23
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Mike Gillislee from Flordia ... 3-4 round


there are other videos ... just youtube him ... but the kid is good , and does everything... has speed/quickness ... I love his cutting and pass blocking ... decent receiver
also only 1 year as a starter to not a lot of tread on the tires
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Default Re: Steelers Badly Need A Feature RB in 2013

Giovani Bernard in the second round. We've fucked up our drafts so badly recently that we have to take a running back in the high rounds, now. We couldn't have picked a worse draft to do it in, either, as this draft is chalk full of defensive talent.

That, or acquire a stop-gap running back until we can draft TJ Yeldon.
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The Saints, Packers and Patriots have been getting by without star running backs for years- not sure why their offenses run so well must be the OC.

Why have all these offenses been putting up big points year after year without a feature back and the Steelers can't?

RB should be drafted late- they have short careers and they are busts often. I'd rather have an OL or DL 1st that plays 13 years than a RB who plays 4.
Your last statement is true, but the comparison to other teams is flawed.

Those O's (and it's unfair to throw in Denver, who just became a throw-first factor with the addition of Peyton) thrive because they run entirely different schemes.

That aside, the Pack's OL and RB's are a mess like the Steelers, the Saints have negative defense and the Pats, their prodigious stat lines aside, still haven't won anything since spygate.

In the end, the Steelers shouldn't be worried about what other teams do on offense, but rather how to stop it and how to run an offense that best suits their needs and leads to the best results.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:37 AM   #26
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Firstly, the Steelers do have a feature back. Fans don't like him because he tweets mean things and he fumbled in the superbowl when an unblocked Clay Matthews put his helmet directly on the ball.

Mendenhall's 2010 effort would have been good enough to finish 7th in yards and 4th in TDs among backs. Mendenhall could start for half the teams in the NFL. Mendenhall is a 25 year old former 1st round pick that would have had 3 1000 yard seasons in a row if he had not been injured.

Secondly, the banged up offensive line is more of a problem to the running game. There were 7 different OL combinations this past season. In the 5 games Mike Adams started the Steelers averaged 4.7 ypc running the ball.

Lastly, the Steelers offense has centered around Ben for the Arians years and continues to center around Ben in Haley's offense. A feature back gets 30 touches a game - no running back consistently gets even 20 touches in the Steelers offense.

I want a stronger running game as much as anyone but drafting a high pick or bringing in a FA is not the answer. Mendenhall / Redman and a healthy OL are the answer.
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I don't care WHO our feature back is, but we need to fucking stick with him. I DESPISE our system of cycling in 4 different backs every other play. It is stupid and you can't name me a successful NFL franchise that does it.
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In Need For A Lead: Steelers Need A Feature Runner in 2013

Sunday, January 6th, 2013 by Jeremy Hritz

When you think of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the running game, the names Harris, Bettis, Foster, and Parker come to mind. When you think of running backs on the current Steelers team, the names don’t exactly conjure up images of broken tackles, big runs, and streaks of 100-yard games.

Consistency was a serious issue for the 2012 Steelers across the board, but at no other position did it have more of a deleterious impact than at the position of running back. While Isaac Redman began the season as the starter, he did not finish the season that way, as Rashard Mendenhall and Jonathan Dwyer also started games. Despite earning the title of starter, the Steelers ball carriers did not necessarily get the touches a starter traditionally has received in Pittsburgh, as the offense relied on a runner-by-committee approach, even when Mike Tomlin anointed Dwyer as “the guy” near the end of the season.

The final result? A wretched ground game that ranked 26th overall in the NFL, averaging 96.1 yards per game and an inglorious 3.7 yards per carry, the worst output from a Steelers team since 2003 when the Steelers finished 6-10 (that team averaged 93 yards per game).

What is obvious for the Steelers to improve in the 2013 season is that they must commit to one runner. Whether or not they have a back that they can confidently commit to is debatable. If they had any confidence in any of the backs that are currently on the roster, then why wouldn’t they have stuck with them throughout the season, or even throughout games?

There is no question that Redman and Dwyer are excellent back-ups, but feature backs they are not. Feature backs can take over games, can convert third downs, and be counted on to hold on to the football. And while Redman and Dwyer both had quality performances this year against the Giants, Bengals, and Redskins, those performances could not be sustained throughout the season.

Mendenhall is not a feature back either, though he has put up good numbers in his career. His erratic play, not to mention his erratic behavior, including his insubordination to the Steelers organization when he skipped a game, have all but sealed his fate with the team. Mendenhall is too much headache and heartache (see fumble in Super Bowl) instead of homeruns and bringing him back would not improve the running game in 2013, not even if he is healthy.

While the Steelers will resign both Redman and Dwyer and will have Chris Rainey and Baron Batch on the roster at the position, they will be in need of a back that can carry a heavy load dependably.

So what are their options?

While the Steelers will most likely draft a running back with the intention of him becoming the starter in April, it is doubtful they would select one in the first few rounds because of the needs at other positions. The Redskins showed this past season with Alfred Morris that there is starter talent to be found later on in drafts.

The better option could come through free agency, as the St. Louis Rams have voided the final contract year of Steven Jackson per his request, and he will hit the open market in March. While not normally active in free agency, the Steelers will want to take a long, thoughtful look at Jackson, who is a physical runner that fits the traditional mold for a Steelers running back. Jackson wants to play for a winner, and at age 29, he probably would not command an obnoxious price tag. Jackson would provide an immediate boost at a position where there is a great need. The question ultimately would be is could the Steelers make it work with their current salary cap situation?

Less likely, though just as good, if not better than Jackson, would be negotiating a trade for Maurice Jones-Drew, whose dissatisfaction with the Jacksonville Jaguars is well documented. While the Jaguars would likely want too much for Jones-Drew, it wouldn’t hurt to at least feel the Jaguars out in regards to a trade.

Or, if all else remains the status quo and the Steelers resign Redman and Dwyer and then add a back via the draft in the later rounds, they just need to make a commitment and stick to it. While consistency at the running back position is not as important as it is at the quarterback position, we witnessed this year the impact that it can have on production.

This much is for certain: if 2013 is another season of musical chairs at the running back position, not only will they rival the 2003 Steelers rushing attack, but they will also be watching playoff games from home for another year.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Couldn't agree more. If, somehow we found that elite back, oh what a difference it would make to this offense and to the team overall. Keep Dwyer, and Redman, let Mendy go, and let's find this difference maker.
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Default Re: Steelers Badly Need A Feature RB in 2013

outside of our entire stable of RBs being injured - the situation really can't get worse at RB in terms of personnel - it's 50/50 for me on whether Mendy should stay or go - I want a decisive Mendy, regardless of the job the O-line is doing. I wouldn't call 2010's O-line anything more than serviceable and he did less dancing and more hitting whatever was in front of him - even if it meant only 2-4 yards.

I will give credit where credit is due in terms of the best running game plan called under Arians and best execution by O personnel - IMO - 2010 AFC champ game is what I'd like to see more consistently with the run game - not the days of Bettis - but balance, and being able to take the pressure off of Ben where we can. Mendy had 121 yards that day against a very good (at the time) Jets D. We need that card in our hand for us to go anywhere - not just Ben's skill set. I wouldn't mind seeing a different guy giving the starter a breather - but, as the O-line said - need to have someone consistently in there to get into a rhythm and build their confidence

Not a huge Mendy fan - but, giving him another chance isn't the end of the world either. I could live with either way. I wouldn't go that high for an RB again. Not caught up on this coming draft class of RBs versus 2014's - does anyone think next year's draft class would give us a better RB (meaning - maybe we should at least keep Mendy around for another season or two even?)

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I actually genuinely believe we will see the Steelers draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd as well as a QB because I dont think Leftwich or Batch will be back. But having said that Dwyer or Redman or both will be back. Mendenhall will not.
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