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Old 01-07-2013, 07:39 PM   #41
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Eddie Lacy tonight ... could very well be worth the 2nd ... but thing with Bama backs is they are always running behind such a beasty Oline
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:45 PM   #42
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Default Re: Steelers Badly Need A Feature RB in 2013

We don't need or want another Jerome Bettis. This isn't 2005, we need someone like AP or Arian Foster as our next running back.

The only way I'd say getting a Power Back would be useful was if he came on the field for third-and-short, and then subbed out. But, we have Will Johnson for that and don't necessarily even need a RB in that situation. I agree we need a legitimate running game, but we need Back that can, ya know, bounce it outside and make plays happen outside the tackles and in open space. I don't want to see another out of shape and overweight RB be our guy.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:06 PM   #43
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We don't need or want another Jerome Bettis. This isn't 2005, we need someone like AP or Arian Foster as our next running back.

The only way I'd say getting a Power Back would be useful was if he came on the field for third-and-short, and then subbed out. But, we have Will Johnson for that and don't necessarily even need a RB in that situation. I agree we need a legitimate running game, but we need Back that can, ya know, bounce it outside and make plays happen outside the tackles and in open space. I don't want to see another out of shape and overweight RB be our guy.
I agree I would love to see a back who has the speed to bounce it out and get to the second level. But I don't think the steelers/Rooneys want that. I remember seeing a stat this year showing that 85% maybe more of our running plays where inside the tackles.

And the case of lacy is he has some speed not much. He's the mold of Trent r who did pretty well this year. But then again lacy looks so good because he is playing behide a oline that some could say is better than the steelers.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:06 PM   #44
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Eddie Lacy tonight ... could very well be worth the 2nd ... but thing with Bama backs is they are always running behind such a beasty Oline
I agree. Lacy runs with a purpose. Why everyone wants to draft a LB is crazy to me. If there is one focus in this draft it should be RB and a backup for Ben. We've seen first hand in the wildcard round of this years playoffs that a solid,dependable backup is absolutely needed. The Steelers ignoring the fact that Ben WILL miss a couple of games due to injury and not addressing the backup QB issue would be devastating.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:20 PM   #45
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I am absolutely loving Chance Warmack in the 1st and Lacy in the 2nd... or if anything Warmack in the 1st

Sanders-----------------Gilbert - Warmack - Pouncey - Decastro - Adams - Heath/Paulson ----------------------------------Brown
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I agree I would love to see a back who has the speed to bounce it out and get to the second level. But I don't think the steelers/Rooneys want that. I remember seeing a stat this year showing that 85% maybe more of our running plays where inside the tackles.

And the case of lacy is he has some speed not much. He's the mold of Trent r who did pretty well this year. But then again lacy looks so good because he is playing behide a oline that some could say is better than the steelers.
That has nothing to do with the Rooneys. Haley recognized that Dwyer and Redman aren't capable of doing anything outside the tackles and could only run it up the middle.

I agree on Lacy. He's running behind an All-Pro offensive line. Take everything he does with a grain of salt.
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Difference is Rodgers, Brees and Peyton (and Brady) are clearly much better than Ben (not saying Ben is anything worse than great).
I think that's part of the difference. But I think the o-line issues and a highly predictable offensive gameplan are as much to blame.
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Eddie Lacy tonight ... could very well be worth the 2nd ... but thing with Bama backs is they are always running behind such a beasty Oline
I agree that Bama's line inflates the numbers of its running backs. However, Lacy had a 6.8 ypc average in his career at Bama beating Richardson by a full ypc (5.8).

Lacy is a hard runner who is hard to tackle and is explosive. The best part is that he is a 1 cut runner who is very decisive- he absolutely will not dance around like Mendenhall no way.

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I don't care WHO our feature back is, but we need to fucking stick with him. I DESPISE our system of cycling in 4 different backs every other play. It is stupid and you can't name me a successful NFL franchise that does it.
I agree that cycling running backs is dumb when Dwyer and Redman are very similar and Batch and Rainey have a similar role.
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That has nothing to do with the Rooneys. Haley recognized that Dwyer and Redman aren't capable of doing anything outside the tackles and could only run it up the middle.

I agree on Lacy. He's running behind an All-Pro offensive line. Take everything he does with a grain of salt.
The Rooneys are as much responisble for that just has much as tomlin and Haley. He's the one that's wants to vert back to the Bettie era. Rooney has been widely criticized throughout the Pittsburgh media as getting to involved with the team. Haley came in and was going to listen to whatever his boss wants just like everyone does in any job.
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I say draft o line instead or RB. Get a great o line coach and we will be on in the run game. I think Kugler didn't do shit for us as a coach. O line is weak, lacks heart, physicality and can't open a lane for a toothpick. Once we can open some holes, any of our backs will average 4 + a carry. A. Peterson would struggle to play competitive behind our pathetic line. I know we have the talent to play much better than we are but we need the coach to get it out of these men. I like colons physicality but we should Draft a left guard and properly coach this o line to have heart, play physical but gracefully, play smart, and stay healthy.

After the o line pick, draft MLB the rest will be icing.
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