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Old 01-14-2013, 05:57 PM   #71
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I dunno - how about the fact that he was still playing late into a 59-24 blowout, which is when he originally got injured?

No sympathy here.
Injuries are part of the game. Gronkowski could have just as easily been injured on the first snap of the game. He did not break his forearm for playing during a blowout, but because he plays a game in which injuries play a major role. Although I hate the Pats, how can it be considered classless for playing the game, even during a blowout? It 's not his responsibility to stop his team's offense, it's up to the opposing team's defense to stop an offense. To blame his injury on karma is just plain incorrect. With that having been said, I also don't feel sympathetic for his injury, but I feel no sympathy because he chose to play the game of football whilst knowing of the injuries that can, and likely will, result from playing the game. My reasoning for not feeling sympathetic has nothing to do with karma, but because of the physical nature of the game of football that Gronkowski chose to play.
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Injuries are part of the game. Gronkowski could have just as easily been injured on the first snap of the game. He did not break his forearm for playing during a blowout, but because he plays a game in which injuries play a major role. Although I hate the Pats, how can it be considered classless for playing the game, even during a blowout? It 's not his responsibility to stop his team's offense, it's up to the opposing team's defense to stop an offense. To blame his injury on karma is just plain incorrect. With that having been said, I also don't feel sympathetic for his injury, but I feel no sympathy because he chose to play the game of football whilst knowing of the injuries that can, and likely will, result from playing the game. My reasoning for not feeling sympathetic has nothing to do with karma, but because of the physical nature of the game of football that Gronkowski chose to play.
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Rob Gronkowski, the New England's star tight end, has been diagnosed with a broken left forearm. Gronkowski was injured while blocking for an extra point on New England's eighth touchdown late in the fourth quarter...
Rationalize it however you wish. They should have been playing the scrubs by then. It's the physicality of the game that you mentioned that is the exact reason why you don't tempt fate in such a manner.
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Patriiots: Everybody was doing it. We gained no advantage.

Common Sense: Everybody got a memo to quit. If it was no advantage then why would a rational person continue to do so when it would result in 500K fine and a draft choice. Something just does not add up.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:10 PM   #74
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whatever their reasons, hope it was worth a tainted legacy
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Rationalize it however you wish. They should have been playing the scrubs by then. It's the physicality of the game that you mentioned that is the exact reason why you don't tempt fate in such a manner.
I'm not a Pats fans, but what coach puts out ALL of their scrubs late in blowout games?

From my experiences of watching games, they pretty much only take out a couple or few of their key starters(QB and RB), and leave their OL, and most of their D out there.

If they put their scrubs in on the OL(blowout or no), others like the QB, RB, K, etc are going to get hurt.
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People act like he got hurt on a pass play. He was hurt on an extra point. Special teams don't generally practice backups, so a blocker like him wouldn't necessitate a backup entering the game, regardless of score.

If say, Brady got hurt throwing that pass, then lolololol....

we all know they are D-Bags who want to run up the score and chase records, but probably no coach would've taken a ST player out while blocking on an extra point.
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People act like he got hurt on a pass play. He was hurt on an extra point. Special teams don't generally practice backups, so a blocker like him wouldn't necessitate a backup entering the game, regardless of score.

If say, Brady got hurt throwing that pass, then lolololol....

we all know they are D-Bags who want to run up the score and chase records, but probably no coach would've taken a ST player out while blocking on an extra point.
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I am being rational. If that was intended to be derogatory, idc. New England chases records. Who can argue otherwise empirically? No one else plays a HoF QB up by 4 TD's with 4 minutes to go. "Stop us if you don't like it"... with that mentality, someone is going to lose a knee. Teams don't steal second up 8 in the 9th. Teams don't pull goalies up 4 with 2 minutes to go..... and teams that aren't chasing records don't play MVP HoF QB's throwing bombs up 32 bazillion either. Teams who want to say "We are the best offense EVVVVRRRRRR" do that. If that was any other team doing it, you'd agree. That's not fandom. That's not hating the Patriots. That's rational evaluation of basic sportmanship.

However, no one is taking a blocker out on ST just because the game is over, even if it is Gronkowski.
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I am being rational. If that was intended to be derogatory, idc. New England chases records. Who can argue otherwise empirically? No one else plays a HoF QB up by 4 TD's with 4 minutes to go. "Stop us if you don't like it"... with that mentality, someone is going to lose a knee. Teams don't steal second up 8 in the 9th. Teams don't pull goalies up 4 with 2 minutes to go..... and teams that aren't chasing records don't play MVP HoF QB's throwing bombs up 32 bazillion either. Teams who want to say "We are the best offense EVVVVRRRRRR" do that. If that was any other team doing it, you'd agree. That's not fandom. That's not hating the Patriots. That's rational evaluation of basic sportmanship.

However, no one is taking a blocker out on ST just because the game is over, even if it is Gronkowski.
Patriots play lights out football to the best of their abilities for sixty full minutes.
They don't bench starters or hide from unfortunate circumstance on the sideline.

They play top tier football for a full game. If teams can't handle it, that's their problem.
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Patriots play lights out football to the best of their abilities for sixty full minutes.
They don't bench starters or hide from unfortunate circumstance on the sideline.

They play top tier football for a full game. If teams can't handle it, that's their problem.
I admire that the Patriots are such perfectionists. Brady gets up his offense's ass if they don't execute whether they are winning or losing.

The people who whine about the Pats running up the score are probably just mad because they keep covering the spread.
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