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Old 01-20-2013, 01:15 PM   #21
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If all those guys were to be cut we'd be looking at a 1-15 season next year
I don't think we'll ever be that bad as long as we have ben under center, but the team is going through a transition.

as much this opinion may be unpopular, it may be 2-3 years before we are in contention for the title, we have some adjustments to make that will take more than 1 year to fix. and the AFC is getting increasingly difficult to win with more contenders popping up. andrew luck is eventually going to give team fits a la another tom brady in the AFC
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:23 PM   #22
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This really parallels the government don't you think? Always trying to find ways to extend or manipulate the debt ceiling yet never really SOLVING the problem of too much debt...
Really this isn't a political post at all, don't care about politics but I thought it was eerily similar. I think that the Steelers groomed so many stars that we will be in cap hell every year for a long time. Sure we hope the cap limit raises to give us relief (similar to govt) but it is only temporary. I just see this same thread happening every year for the next 5 years +
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:30 PM   #23
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We're going to be 1-15 because we're shedding the dead weight on this team and replacing them with younger and more explosive guys? Getting rid of Harrison, Keisel, Hampton and Troy might make our defensive more explosive. Harrison is struggling with severe knee and back problems while Keisel and Hampton have clearly lost a couple steps to their game. Great, they're vocal leaders in the locker room but at this point, we're worse off on defense when they're on the field than when they're not.

Enter Polamalu. He's easily going to be the most controversial and hardest cut this team is going to have to make, but I think it's a necessary one. Do you guys think he's worth the 10 million dollar cap hit we're going to take for him to stay on this team? For me, it's an easy no. He's lost a step, too, but because of his play style and not necessarily his age, but I'm sure that factors in as well. He's no longer the explosive, playmaking Safety we've all come to expect on Sundays and this defense was actually better against the pass when we had two Safeties deep, playing a more conventional 3-4 defense rather than relying on Troy as our only playmaker on the field. Either talk him into retirement or cut him loose because we've dug ourselves into a hole with all these older players and their ridiculously high cap hits.

They're just not worth it anymore. They're not contributing and, as hard as it is to say good-bye for some of you, it's a no-brainer for me. Harrison isn't worth a 10 million dollar cap hit, neither is Polamalu. Keisel isn't worth his 4.5 million dollar cap hit, either and these guys have to be shown the door so new blood can come in. Sorry guys, it's time to let the younger guys take over the reigns.

Draft OLB, S/WR, ILB in that order and let them fucking play. I'm getting tired of LeBeau's 'rookies aren't ready!' bullshit and letting these aging guys play over their faster and more explosive counter-parts. If we need a change in defensive ideology (not scheme, chill) then so be it. Why didn't Heyward play over Keisel? Why wasn't McLendon playing over Hampton despite obviously outplaying him every single snap he was on the field? Why are younger guys punished for making a play in the backfield when our OLBs are struggling to make plays?
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:27 PM   #24
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We're going to be 1-15 because we're shedding the dead weight on this team and replacing them with younger and more explosive guys? Getting rid of Harrison, Keisel, Hampton and Troy might make our defensive more explosive. Harrison is struggling with severe knee and back problems while Keisel and Hampton have clearly lost a couple steps to their game. Great, they're vocal leaders in the locker room but at this point, we're worse off on defense when they're on the field than when they're not.

Enter Polamalu. He's easily going to be the most controversial and hardest cut this team is going to have to make, but I think it's a necessary one. Do you guys think he's worth the 10 million dollar cap hit we're going to take for him to stay on this team? For me, it's an easy no. He's lost a step, too, but because of his play style and not necessarily his age, but I'm sure that factors in as well. He's no longer the explosive, playmaking Safety we've all come to expect on Sundays and this defense was actually better against the pass when we had two Safeties deep, playing a more conventional 3-4 defense rather than relying on Troy as our only playmaker on the field. Either talk him into retirement or cut him loose because we've dug ourselves into a hole with all these older players and their ridiculously high cap hits.

They're just not worth it anymore. They're not contributing and, as hard as it is to say good-bye for some of you, it's a no-brainer for me. Harrison isn't worth a 10 million dollar cap hit, neither is Polamalu. Keisel isn't worth his 4.5 million dollar cap hit, either and these guys have to be shown the door so new blood can come in. Sorry guys, it's time to let the younger guys take over the reigns.

Draft OLB, S/WR, ILB in that order and let them fucking play. I'm getting tired of LeBeau's 'rookies aren't ready!' bullshit and letting these aging guys play over their faster and more explosive counter-parts. If we need a change in defensive ideology (not scheme, chill) then so be it. Why didn't Heyward play over Keisel? Why wasn't McLendon playing over Hampton despite obviously outplaying him every single snap he was on the field? Why are younger guys punished for making a play in the backfield when our OLBs are struggling to make plays?

I agree with you in a couple of your points.

1 - replacements for those guys you listed may actually make our defense better
2 - Troy. Steeler fans are going to have to get over the "nostalgia" highlight reels and the emotional connection - and let him go.. You are absolutely right - while he's worth something - he sure as HELL isn't worth the $10 million figures that he's being paid - not even close.
People have made comments about offenses "having to take account for him". Not $10 million dollars worth.

I love those guys, but i wont' be sad if Troy, Harrison, Kiesel and Hampton are all cut. I'm really looking forward to moving on to the next thing.
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just think of the extra guys we would have to cut if the walllass lovers had their way and gave him 10+ for the next 5
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just think of the extra guys we would have to cut if the walllass lovers had their way and gave him 10+ for the next 5
haahahahahaha Wallass. I cant believe i didnt think of that first. Props!
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Aaaaaaaaaaand someone mentioned Wallace. How long did it take? 25 responses? I guess that's not bad, usually it's within the first 15 or so.
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Aaaaaaaaaaand someone mentioned Wallace. How long did it take? 25 responses? I guess that's not bad, usually it's within the first 15 or so.
i don't think there's a thread on this board in existence that doesn't evolve into blame, bash, and throw stones at either Wallace or Ben - no matter what the subject. Sad.
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i don't think there's a thread on this board in existence that doesn't evolve into blame, bash, and throw stones at either Wallace or Ben - no matter what the subject. Sad.
Don't forget about Tomlin and Haley. Plenty of people on the board bash them as well.
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i don't think there's a thread on this board in existence that doesn't evolve into blame, bash, and throw stones at either Wallace or Ben - no matter what the subject. Sad.
Very, very true.
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