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Old 01-05-2015, 12:50 PM   #1
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Leadership Matters
Clearly, this team did not possess great talent on Defense, but this Steeler’s team had the talent to beat the Ravens and move on in the playoffs. So why did they allow the Ravens to steal this opportunity?

There is a lack of player leadership that will not accept losing. I believe that there is a clique mentality in the locker room. For example Dri Archer was open but Ben would not give him the ball (he has not earned my trust, etc.), but this is the playoffs; you must hit the OPEN man, if he proves he can’t handle it then it is the coaches’ responsibility not to play that person.

I continue to be a Rothlisberger supporter, can’t imagine how the Steelers would have done without a franchise QB, but nonetheless, he forces the ball to AB. Why not force it to BIG #10 down the field and get the completion or penalty much like the Ravens do.

This team is made up of quality individuals, but when Tomlin says that AB is the person that gets us going, there is a problem. You need a physical defensive leader to have that role, (Porter, never a fan of his, but he had IT, Lloyd, Greene..).

I am hoping that this draft or FA will bring the talent and LEADERSHIP that will refuse to lose to inferior teams, that will fight to the end vs. the top teams. I think the QB needs competition to keep him sharp as well).
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Thanked your post for pointing out game plan flaws, not of possible 'leadership' ones.

While having a Joey Porter-like defender to add a spark would be nice, a 'workmanlike' team model can function effectively (see: New England).

Also, this team was rolling along until they lost Bell. It's not likely that his presence swings Saturday's game by 14 points, but it would have provided multiple facets to keep it closer or alter the outcome (TDs vs. FGs, extending drives, eating clock, etc.).

It's not fair to assume a flaw in leadership after every loss.

Talent, game plan, execution and the breaks matter (collectively) much more. Somewhere in the realm of 70% (if not more).

Peyton Manning is a 'leader' and has lost more playoff games than any other QB.

Diverting blame in that direction feels like a reach.
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Old 01-05-2015, 01:12 PM   #3
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This team had plenty of leadership. Brett Keisel and Harrison were the emotional leaders of this defense. When Brett got hurt I think that took a little bit of the fire away on the field. That being said I don't think leadership had anything to do with us losing the game against the Ravens. Bell being hurt, and mistakes being made are what really hurt us the most.
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Oh, and if you're looking for a team to question leadership model, look no further than the Cincinnati Bengals.

Marvin Lewis is 0-6 in the postseason. Andy Dalton is 0-4.

I believe they've lost all their playoff games by double digits. They've lost multiple (at least two) at home. They've lost to third string QBs (T.J. Yates).

While one can question their talent level(s) this year, they simply possess no fire and never have.

That's a team that needs a 'leader'.
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Thanked your post for pointing out game plan flaws, not of possible 'leadership' ones.

While having a Joey Porter-like defender to add a spark would be nice, a 'workmanlike' team model can function effectively (see: New England).

Also, this team was rolling along until they lost Bell. It's not likely that his presence swings Saturday's game by 14 points, but it would have provided multiple facets to keep it closer or alter the outcome (TDs vs. FGs, extending drives, eating clock, etc.).

It's not fair to assume a flaw in leadership after every loss.

Talent, game plan, execution and the breaks matter (collectively) much more. Somewhere in the realm of 70% (if not more).

Peyton Manning is a 'leader' and has lost more playoff games than any other QB.

Diverting blame in that direction feels like a reach.

Everything gets second guessed the week after a playoff loss. I understand the impulse. I just yell "WTF" at the ceiling tiles with no specificity.
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Everything gets second guessed the week after a playoff loss. I understand the impulse. I just yell "WTF" at the ceiling tiles with no specificity.
Soooo... fire the ceiling tiles???
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Harrison said it best.

our young players need to learn what it takes to be a Steeler, not just play for the Steelers.
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I have always been big on leadership. It was part of the reason why I thought we should have kept Foote another year. Obviously there is a lot to account for like price, level or play etc...But if a great leader is going to give you slightly less than a non leader, I take the leader.

Luckily it looks like Cam Heyward could be stepping up to be that guy on D, but outside of him nobody really jumps out as being that next guy. At one point we had it at every level on defense and sometimes in multiples.

Keisel up front, Farrior and Harrison 2nd level and Clark and Taylor 3rd level. And they have slowly all gone (luckily 2 came back ) and nobody has really seemed to replace them.

I don't know how much truth there is to it, but they even mentioned something on the Terrible Podcast about rumors of Troy not being the biggest fan of the locker room this year or some such. Would be interesting to know more about that.
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Harrison said it best.

our young players need to learn what it takes to be a Steeler, not just play for the Steelers.
I'm hoping that the pain of exiting the playoffs hit them hard and now they realize how tough it is in the postseason. A lot of inexperienced and young faces on this team, so I didn't expect them to get far (though hoped). But now they have postseason experience under their belt, they will know what to expect next time. IMO, playoff experience is one of the most overlooked factors when picking teams who will win in the postseason.
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Oh, and if you're looking for a team to question leadership model, look no further than the Cincinnati Bengals.

Marvin Lewis is 0-6 in the postseason. Andy Dalton is 0-4.

I believe they've lost all their playoff games by double digits. They've lost multiple (at least two) at home. They've lost to third string QBs (T.J. Yates).

While one can question their talent level(s) this year, they simply possess no fire and never have.

That's a team that needs a 'leader'.
Or someone other than a journeyman at QB - these are the QBs for the 8 teams left - Rodgers, Romo, Wilson, Newton, Brady, Flacco, Peyton and Luck
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