Flacco to be looking for $20M !!

[TRH]

Raven's fans should not be celebrating this evening.
Now, they'll have to say "goodbye, Kruger" (in my opinion, they're best and most valuable free agent), and goodbye to this and goodbye to that.

Welcome to salary cap hell. You can't have it all.
Winner : Flacco himself (and his agent)
Losers : the rest of the team and the Baltimore fans (the honest truth is that Flacco is good - but not even nearly that good...end of story).

[BlacksburgSteeler13]

So, Flacco got what he wanted, after all. Now he'll have to go out and prove that all that money he got was well spent.

[RavenManiac]

Originally Posted by TRH

Raven's fans should not be celebrating this evening.
Now, they'll have to say "goodbye, Kruger" (in my opinion, they're best and most valuable free agent), and goodbye to this and goodbye to that.

Welcome to salary cap hell. You can't have it all.
Winner : Flacco himself (and his agent)
Losers : the rest of the team and the Baltimore fans (the honest truth is that Flacco is good - but not even nearly that good...end of story).

Not sure there was ever any chance we could keep Kruger, but this deal increases the chance not decreases it.

Flacco's cap number for 2013 will likely be less than $10M (maybe a few million less than that), whereas the non-exclusive tag would have been $14.6M, and the exclusive tag $18M+.

I think we lose Kruger, we keep Ellerbe, we keep Jacoby Jones. Boldin is iffy, I know we want to keep him, but we may try to reduce his cap number through an extension/restructure. Ed Reed will get the Ray Lewis treatment from a couple years back and be told to test the market and come back to us. We will let him walk if the price is too high, imo.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by RavenManiac

Not sure there was ever any chance we could keep Kruger, but this deal increases the chance not decreases it.

Flacco's cap number for 2013 will likely be less than $10M (maybe a few million less than that), whereas the non-exclusive tag would have been $14.6M, and the exclusive tag $18M+.

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doubt it....i'd say his deal probably looks about the same as drew's....

Brees and the Saints reached an agreement Friday on the terms of a new deal, which includes $60 million in guaranteed money and a $37 million signing bonus. Brees will earn $40 million in the first year of the contract, and the $20 million yearly average salary makes it the NFL's richest.
The deal gives the Saints flexibility in the short term. With the bonuses counting against the cap on a pro-rated basis over the life of the contract -- $7.4 million per year in Brees' case -- Brees will only count $10.4 million against the Saints' salary cap in 2012.

[RavenManiac]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

doubt it....i'd say his deal probably looks about the same as drew's....

Brees counted $10.4 against the cap. And that was because they had more room than us.

I am hearing rumors the 2013 cap number for Flacco will be $7M. Consisting of $1M base salary and 1/5th (proration) of a $30M signing bonus. I suspect there is some kind of option/roster bonus or guaranteed base salary in future years if this rumor is true, because the guaranteed money almost has to be more than $30M (even if not by too much).

We'll see.

[tony hipchest]

ozzie is no dummy.

basically this deal will be akin to slapping flacco with the franchise tag twice, and give the ravens an easy out when he falls back to earth.






...meanwhile, flacco's infantile ego can be stroked to the tune of a T-Rex beating off!

[JeromeBetties63]

Originally Posted by BleedPurple

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P.S. I won't make apologies about Joe Flacco taking advantage of poor coverage by Denver. His ability to recognize and exploit poor coverage is a benefit. People call that play a hail mary, but I don't really see it that way, we still have 40 seconds on the clock and generally in a hail mary there are more bodies downfield. This was Joe throwing into double coverage and letting Jacoby make a play.

Fair enough...but I think its also fair to say that it succeeds less than 10% of the time...maybe less than 5%. And if it doesn't happen...but it did, and the rest is history. That's why the NFL remains the #1 sport.

[mikegrimey]

Originally Posted by JeromeBetties63

Fair enough...but I think its also fair to say that it succeeds less than 10% of the time...maybe less than 5%. And if it doesn't happen...but it did, and the rest is history. That's why the NFL remains the #1 sport.

Nah, Flacco can throw the bomb, it's one of his biggest strengths, the guy has a ridiculous strong arm, great at those sideline deep balls

[JeromeBetties63]

Originally Posted by mikegrimey

Nah, Flacco can throw the bomb, it's one of his biggest strengths, the guy has a ridiculous strong arm, great at those sideline deep balls

Ya, but in that particular situation where its the only play and you have to have it right then....the odds are very, very low....for Joe Flacco or Joe Montana or Joe Namath or even Dan Marino.

[BleedPurple]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

ozzie is no dummy.

basically this deal will be akin to slapping flacco with the franchise tag twice, and give the ravens an easy out when he falls back to earth.






...meanwhile, flacco's infantile ego can be stroked to the tune of a T-Rex beating off!

This was my exact thought Tony, can't really lose. If he plays up to the contract, that means we have a ridiculous QB, and if he doesn't, the cap hit in the first 2 years is LOWER than if we franchise tag him.

In short, this is going to let us do a deal with Flacco in a year he is NOT superbowl MVP.