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Old 02-05-2013, 09:59 AM   #21
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oh hell no we can't afford Jennings, but that is the type of WR we need over this overly-hyped track star

I have a feeling Arians will continue the Steelers West tradition of taking from our scrap heap
with no QB to throw to him in Arizona. he'll be miserable...
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with no QB to throw to him in Arizona. he'll be miserable...

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Hard to say how Hines being around would have changed matters - by the end of 2011 Hines was the #5 receiver in terms of ability and keeping him around as a player-coach-motivator for what he wanted to be paid would have been tough if he could not lead by example on the field - at some point your younger players need to step up without adult supervision - some younger players assume that role as the next generation of leaders (Ward, Smith and Porter for the Steelers after 2001) and some do not (Burress). Wallace did not

What the playoffs showed to me was the happy talk earlier in the year about the Steelers having the best receiving corps in the NFL was a joke - in today's game you need some size at WR (Megatron, Julio Jones, Green) and the Steelers did not have that even on the days Wallace felt like playing
and think about who has won the last 3 SBs. Green Bay didn't have the biggest guys, but they had near perfect route running and execution and thrived on adjust to our D's weaknesses (Think Jennings on sideline talking about corner in the end zone being open all day long) - all on same page.

Giants WRs were even closer to our guys in terms of size and speed but fought a helluva lot harder than what I saw and had way better hands.

Ravens WRs were extremely physical and were not going to be out physicaled for the ball. Boldin, Smith and Jones caught the Broncos, Patriots, and 49ers secondaries with their pants down and made them pay with mid-air timing

When your corp can't hang their hat on any one ability, you're right - they can be somewhat overrated. I think you'll see our guys get back to the basics and possessing over anything else, or, we're toast again.
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with no QB to throw to him in Arizona. he'll be miserable...
As long as he is overpaid he will be happy enough
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with no QB to throw to him in Arizona. he'll be miserable...
Oh no.......Alex Smith will be throwing him the ball, for whatever good that will do him.
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As long as he is overpaid he will be happy enough
unless he plans on burning it quickly - why does this feel like another TO?
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Hard to say how Hines being around would have changed matters - by the end of 2011 Hines was the #5 receiver in terms of ability and keeping him around as a player-coach-motivator for what he wanted to be paid would have been tough if he could not lead by example on the field - at some point your younger players need to step up without adult supervision - some younger players assume that role as the next generation of leaders (Ward, Smith and Porter for the Steelers after 2001) and some do not (Burress). Wallace did not.
Personally, I think the Steelers gave up on HInes way too early. I didn't say anything about it then, so I am not going to play the hindsight professor role here.

But seriously, he had a descent season in 2011, and then we came back from the lockout and suddenly he is over the hill? The long offseason and lockout did not benefit any teams or players, but I don't think guys go from productive to dead weight in a few months.

He spent the summer on dancing with the stars and whatnot. I am sure if he worked out again, he could have been a contributor still. They just did not want him around anymore because he did not fit their "young money" speed-influenced scheme.

These young punks seriously need Ward there to regulate. Remember how he made Mendenhall tote a ball around with him his rookie year after his first case of the drops? He could have setup a lockerroom rule that everytime someone throws the ball to Wallace and he doesn't catch it, he has to pay them $100.

If the Steelers make an offer to Wallace, I wonder what they would put on the table now, after the season he had. I doubt it would be the $10 million they seem to have offered at the start of the year.
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Vincent Jackson is a way better WR than Mike Wallace is, compare their 2012 stats:

Jackson 72 rec for 1384 yds 19.2 avg and 8 TDs
Wallace 64 rec for 836 yds 13.1 avg and 8 TDs
Yet people will say " but Mike is faster".

Well duh. If Mike Wallace didn't have straight line speed he'd be in the Canadian football league. His other wide receiver attributes are average at best.


Mike Wallace can't hold Santonio Holmes jock.

Will I miss the speed? Yup.

Replace it with decent speed, good hands and good route running (can be found through free agency or the 2nd round of the draft) and won't miss him.

Read this guys bio

He's a free agent, 6'3" and his attributes and cons remind me a lot of Mike Wallace.

Difference? Guy can probably be had for 2-4 million a year and he's 2" taller than Mike.
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Yet people will say " but Mike is faster".

Well duh. If Mike Wallace didn't have straight line speed he'd be in the Canadian football league. His other wide receiver attributes are average at best.


Mike Wallace can't hold Santonio Holmes jock.

Will I miss the speed? Yup.

Replace it with decent speed, good hands and good route running (can be found through free agency or the 2nd round of the draft) and won't miss him.

Read this guys bio

He's a free agent, 6'3" and his attributes and cons remind me a lot of Mike Wallace.

Difference? Guy can probably be had for 2-4 million a year and he's 2" taller than Mike.
I understand but honestly the negatives they are saying anyways, outweigh the additional 2 inches. He has problems in tight coverage and holding onto the ball with big hits - thats a problem we've already had to deal with. I dunno - he certainly couldn't be any worse.
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Yet people will say " but Mike is faster".

Well duh. If Mike Wallace didn't have straight line speed he'd be in the Canadian football league. His other wide receiver attributes are average at best.


Mike Wallace can't hold Santonio Holmes jock.

Will I miss the speed? Yup.

Replace it with decent speed, good hands and good route running (can be found through free agency or the 2nd round of the draft) and won't miss him.

Read this guys bio

He's a free agent, 6'3" and his attributes and cons remind me a lot of Mike Wallace.

Difference? Guy can probably be had for 2-4 million a year and he's 2" taller than Mike.
my best guess is 6-7.5 mil
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