Ben Roethlisberger is our John Elway

[pczach]

Originally Posted by scottcurtis

IM SO SICK OF THAT LAME EXCUSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably a bit better than Charlie batch did when he beat the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION RAVENS this year !!!! That argument is INVALID !

The same team went further with Tebow last year. Got anything else that makes sense?

[lloydwoodson]

Originally Posted by pczach

The same team went further with Tebow last year. Got anything else that makes sense?

I agree with you on Manning's failure but you have to also give credit to Flacco for beating Manning and Brady when both of those future Hall of Famers were playing at home. I don't see a scenario where Tebow gets past Flacco. Flacco is too clutch in the playoffs. Flacco should have gone to the Superbowl last year but Evans had that pass knocked from his hand in the end zone and Cundiff failed miserably. Flacco outplayed Brady in back to back years in New England.

[BlacksburgSteeler13]

Originally Posted by pczach

The same team went further with Tebow last year. Got anything else that makes sense?

The team did not go further with Tebow. Both teams went to the divisional round of the playoffs.

[scottcurtis]

Originally Posted by BlacksburgSteeler13

The team did not go further with Tebow. Both teams went to the divisional round of the playoffs.

Exactly !

[BlacksburgSteeler13]

Originally Posted by scottcurtis

IM SO SICK OF THAT LAME EXCUSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably a bit better than Charlie batch did when he beat the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION RAVENS this year !!!! That argument is INVALID !

Charlie Batch did not beat the Ravens. The Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Baltimore Ravens. Quarterbacks do not beat teams by themselves.

[SteelersCanada]

Originally Posted by BlacksburgSteeler13

Charlie Batch did not beat the Ravens. The Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Baltimore Ravens. Quarterbacks do not beat teams by themselves.

Tell that to the Patriots over the last decade. The New England Tom Brady's are a pretty good team.

[BlacksburgSteeler13]

Originally Posted by SteelersCanada

Tell that to the Patriots over the last decade. The New England Tom Brady's are a pretty good team.

Tom Brady still needs an offensive line to block for him, receivers to catch his passes, and a running back that he can give the ball to on occasion. Also, he needs a defense that makes enough stops for the Patriots to win most of their games and a kicker to make field goals in close games. Tom Brady absolutely plays the most significant role in most of the Patriots' wins, but he doesn't beat teams all on his own, and neither does any other NFL player.

[scottcurtis]

Originally Posted by BlacksburgSteeler13

Charlie Batch did not beat the Ravens. The Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Baltimore Ravens. Quarterbacks do not beat teams by themselves.

Tell that to all the Ben apologist's here.

[pczach]

Originally Posted by scottcurtis

Tell that to all the Ben apologist's here.

Look. Anybody that knows anything about football understands you need a team around you to succeed. I'm messing with you because all you ever post is anti-Roethlisberger tripe. I've looked at your posting history, and that has been the subject of every post you have made that I read. That is not the work of a true Steeler fan. That is an agenda. I don't know why a fan that supposedly wants his team to win would come to a message board and only talk about one player on that team, and nothing else. If you did, you would have much more credibility with me. There are others members here that I disagree with on Big Ben, and go back and forth in posts, but I agree or disagree with them on many other topics in this forum. That I can respect. Someone that just beats a drum on one thing seems shallow and that there is an undisclosed reason for it. It doesn't come across as being a fan in any shape, matter, or form.

[pczach]

Originally Posted by lloydwoodson

I agree with you on Manning's failure but you have to also give credit to Flacco for beating Manning and Brady when both of those future Hall of Famers were playing at home. I don't see a scenario where Tebow gets past Flacco. Flacco is too clutch in the playoffs. Flacco should have gone to the Superbowl last year but Evans had that pass knocked from his hand in the end zone and Cundiff failed miserably. Flacco outplayed Brady in back to back years in New England.

I wasn't talking about Flacco, but I think Flacco played fantastic this post season. Your right, he's been playing much better when it matters for the Ravens. That's what makes Ben's record against him so impressive, particularly in the playoffs. He has always outplayed Flacco when they go head-to-head. It impresses you when Flacco outplays Brady, but not when Ben outplays Flacco? That's what is so hard to understand sometimes when you're talking about Roethlisberger. Doesn't that just show how formidable he's been in the post season?