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Old 02-26-2013, 03:27 PM   #11
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Move over, I'm hopping on your bandwagon! Completely agree with you!
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Plenty of room... hopefully, Colbert & Tomlin will join us.

They'll prolly go OLine R1
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safety is definitely gonna be one of our biggest needs, so I could dig this pick
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:16 PM   #13
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Default Re: Kenny Vaccaro Ideal Fit for Interested Steelers

I would love to have Vaccaro or Elam in this draft, my only problem with that is that I believe with all of the free agents that the Steelers stand to lose this off-season and potential cuts, I think it's more important to use that pick on someone who can start on day one, in one of those positions where there's a vacancy or need for upgrade. Vaccaro or Elam will probably sit the bench til Troy or Clark leave. But if we get Vaccaro with that first pick, so be it. Go Steelers!
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no thanks. dude just ran a 4.6 40 time. Way too slow for safety and for sure too high at 17.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:22 PM   #15
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I would love to have Vaccaro or Elam in this draft, my only problem with that is that I believe with all of the free agents that the Steelers stand to lose this off-season and potential cuts, I think it's more important to use that pick on someone who can start on day one, in one of those positions where there's a vacancy or need for upgrade. Vaccaro or Elam will probably sit the bench til Troy or Clark leave. But if we get Vaccaro with that first pick, so be it. Go Steelers!
very good point. We still have to go through free agency to find out if we'll need a safety starting day 1. Although, I think Clark and Polamalu are safe and that you are correct, any safety drafted won't be starting day 1
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They'll prolly go OLine R1
Or R2. We definitely need one more high quality young lineman, preferably one with position flexibility.

That will still leave us with needs on the OL, but of course, we have other needs as well. With one pick, we can probably fill out the rest of our OL needs with some low profile FAs or UFAs, but we better hope that ALL of our planned experiments succeed and that nobody gets hurt - otherwise we don't even have a starting five. The OL situation is really that tenuous.

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I would love to have Vaccaro or Elam in this draft, my only problem with that is that I believe with all of the free agents that the Steelers stand to lose this off-season and potential cuts, I think it's more important to use that pick on someone who can start on day one, in one of those positions where there's a vacancy or need for upgrade. Vaccaro or Elam will probably sit the bench til Troy or Clark leave. But if we get Vaccaro with that first pick, so be it. Go Steelers!
It's really important to have a backup safety given the age of our starters, but in general, I agree with you. We need guys that can start now for both the OL and LB, and maybe even the DL. We definitely don't have time yet for new pretty toys at the offensive skill positions, at least not in the early rounds. Starter-capable guys now!!
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Default Re: Kenny Vaccaro Ideal Fit for Interested Steelers

Wouldn't be disappointed.

He's tough, makes plays, and is versatile.

Besides, we need young star talent at the safety position. Someone who can play in all cities and doesn't have lingering calf injury issues.
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no thanks. dude just ran a 4.6 40 time. Way too slow for safety and for sure too high at 17.
You're wrong. For a Corner, that would be too slow. Look at the safety #'s, that was about average among the Safeties. Only 3 or 4 hit a # in the 4.4 range. The ones that hit 4.2-4.3 were all corners. For safeties, the 40 time isn't as important as how they perform on the other drills. Hip movement, acceleration, footwork, etc.
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You're wrong. For a Corner, that would be too slow. Look at the safety #'s, that was about average among the Safeties. Only 3 or 4 hit a # in the 4.4 range. The ones that hit 4.2-4.3 were all corners. For safeties, the 40 time isn't as important as how they perform on the other drills. Hip movement, acceleration, footwork, etc.
He doesn't play like his time was at the combine. Not worried wont hurt his stock. And will ran better at pro day like most.
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no thanks. dude just ran a 4.6 40 time. Way too slow for safety and for sure too high at 17.
Don't judge peoples talent by their 40 times. It's what Al Davis did and, well, the Raiders have been garbage for a decade. Those two things might be linked - just saying.

I wouldn't be upset if we got him, but we need a pass rusher in the first two rounds. I'd be happier with Mingo, but hey, to each their own.
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