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Old 03-06-2013, 12:07 PM   #1
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Default Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

i am looking at todd mcshays most recent mock draft, and obviously take it with a grain of salt, but he has steelers take jarvis at 17..

cant imagine he'll be there, but its the second mock i've seen with us grabbing him..
i'd pumped if we could somehow grab him..
get a safety and round 2, and rb in 3.. bpa rest of the draft

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Jarvis Jones*Pittsburgh Steelers (8-8)COLLEGE: GeorgiaAGE: 23HT: 6-2⅜WT: 245POS: LB
Analysis: Cornerback, wide receiver and offensive tackle are all bigger needs, but Jones is a good value pick here if he checks out medically. He fits perfectly as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the Steelers' scheme, which historically has excelled with smaller-framed OLBs.

The bottom line is the Steelers' pass rush -- particularly on third downs -- was lacking last year. James Harrison's play dropped off and LaMarr Woodley struggled to stay healthy. The Steelers saw some flashes from Jason Worilds, but is he a long-term answer as a starter? What Jones does best is pin his ears back and attack the QB off the edge.
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

No, not realistic.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:20 PM   #3
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

I like how he says CB is a need which shows me he didn't watch a single Steelers game this year. He said to himself,

"Oh, Keenan Lewis is leaving? CB must be a need then."

He also says we need a Tackle which, again, shows to me that he has no idea what he's talking about.

Anyway, I think it is. There's a lot of teams scared off by his medical issues and with the Chiefs tagging Brandon Albert, that changes the dynamic of this draft. It's no longer a forgone conclusion that Joeckel is the number one overall pick and could potentially slide to the Eagles at 4. That one little thing changed what teams are going to do in terms of trades, etc. and teams are higher on other pass rushers (Jordan comes to mind).

If he's there at 17, the Steelers brass might beat their record for 'fastest pick in NFL history' which they got last year with DeCastro.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:51 PM   #4
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

how far would anyone be willing to trade up to grab him?

me personally i hate trading up, but it seems like with the saints switching to a 3-4 he could be a target for them as well..

if he is there at 17 great. sprint up the podium, if not, hopefully we can grab a game changing safety..
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

Couldn't agree more that CB is NOT a need for us. If he's there, we absolutely take him but probably won't be. I think they actually trade down and grab a Safety, Vecarro or Elam. Unless, of course, someone that they love falls and they go BPA - Jones falls into that category.
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

Mock's are pointless until after Free Agency has begun for at least a few weeks. People will sign, Needs will change and so on.
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

Very realistic.

Teams are scared about his spinal abnormality. Michael Irvin played witht he same "complication"... but, with that said, Jones could also have a very short career.

IMO: who cares if he only plays 6 seasons!?! Sign him to a rookie contract (which is cheap); let him dominate fior five seasons... and if he starts to show signs of complications, then the Steelers simply do not re-sign him. Heck, they lose FAs all the time after their rookie contracts are up, so I do not see it being an issue.

Lastly, is response to trading up for him: no. This draft is too deep to be trading up. (If anything, I'd trade back & pick up a few extra R3 picks.)
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

If he is there I would take him in a second. With that said, he will be long gone by the time we pick
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

if we had started a similar thread a year ago about how realistic it would be for David DeCastro to still be there at #24, how many people would have said yes?

anything can happen, especially when you consider Jarvis Jones' medical concerns.
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Default Re: Is Jarvis Jones realistic at 17?

I mean, it's possible. The injury bug can really scare off a few teams. Da'Quan Bowers was in the conversation for the #1 pick a few years back, and surely looked like he would go top 5, and he slid all the way back to the mid second (I know he hasn't done much in his time in the NFL but still). With the abundance of pass rushers in the top half of the draft, a lot of teams might love Jones's upside, but if there are still guys like Ansah, Mingo, Werner hanging around, it will be tempting for teams to go with them because they still have first round upside without the neck problems.
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