Why register with the Steelers Fever Forums?
 • Intelligent and friendly discussions.
 • It's free and it's quick. Always.
 • Enter events in the forums calendar.
 • Very user friendly software.
 • Exclusive contests and giveaways.

 Donate to Steelers Fever, Click here
 Our 2014 Goal: $450.00 - To Date: $450.00 (100.00%)
 Home | Forums | Editorials | Shop | Tickets | Downloads | Contact Pittsburgh Steelers Forum Feed Not Just Fans. Hardcore Fans.

Go Back   Steelers Fever Forums > Steelers Football > Pittsburgh Steelers


Steelers Fever Fan Shop

Doc's Sports Get FREE NFL Picks and College Football picks as well as Football Lines like live NFL Lines and updated NFL Power Rankings all at Doc's Sports Service.

Steelers

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-20-2013, 01:04 AM   #1
Hawaii 5-0
Armchair GM
Supporter
 
Hawaii 5-0's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: The Aloha State
Posts: 9,937
Gender: Male
Member Number: 24013
Thanks: 9,621
Thanked 12,740 Times in 5,260 Posts
My Mood: Amazed
Default Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

By SteelCityRoller on Mar 19 2013



While the team will be entering 2013 with a new offensive line coach and opening-day starter, the team will not be committing itself to wholesale philosophy changes.

The Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin addressed members of the media on Tuesday at the owner's meetings. He was asked about the rumors which have the team transitioning to a zone-block running scheme in 2013, after the team collectively recorded one of the worst rushing performances in franchise history.

According to Tomlin, the team will be looking into it through camp, and hope to use elements of it in their 2013 game-plans; but the team will not commit itself to a philosophy it does not have the means to implement.

When Sean Kugler vacated his position to become the head coach at his alma-mater UTEP, the team replaced him with Jack Bicknell, Jr., who was seen as a zone-blocking artist upon his hiring. Despite his experience base, the team will not expect their roster to completely change their mindset in just one training-camp.

The coaching staff and front office know who they have personnel wise, and will not ask their current players to stray too far from their own strengths; but zone-blocking elements will be installed, creating a hybrid version of the man-blocking scheme of previous years. Whether or not this is a plan to slowly transition the team to a zone-scheme for the long-term future has yet to be seen, although should the team find the vast improvement it seeks, they may just continue doing what works.

This hybrid scheme will also benefit the running backs, as Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman have been deemed unfit for strictly-zone-blocked duty. Both could benefit from the change-up in schematics, granting the team extra time to find more-worthy candidates.

If there was ever a time to begin making such a transition, it is now. Recently re-signed Ramon Foster is now the eldest member of the offensive line, in his fifth NFL season. The team's accrued youth will be able to grow with the new system, rather than attempting to force it down the throats of entrenched veterans.

While it all sounds great in theory, as Mike Tomlin puts it, "This is all March talk." The final stat lines and play-off seedings in 2013 will determine whether this new hybrid approach was a success, or a failure.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...scheme-in-2013
__________________
Hawaii 5-0 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hawaii 5-0 For This Useful Post:
harrison'samonster (03-20-2013)
Old 03-20-2013, 09:01 PM   #2
El-Gonzo Jackson
Living Legend
 
El-Gonzo Jackson's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 9,497
Member Number: 8264
Thanks: 420
Thanked 2,841 Times in 1,333 Posts
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

So funny, all of the cyber-GM's on this board were pencilling in an Alex Gibbs inspired zone block offense (when many are not sure what it really is) for the Steelers in Feb. Tomlin dispells the rumors in March.

So they are likely going to run some form of blocking scheme that employs combination blocks a the point of attack and then the one O lineman will scrape to the 2nd level to get the LB, similar to an inside zone system. Also, will keep elements of a power man scheme to try and pry open some running lanes.

I like it. Bicknell is likely showing some versatility and may run more of a Zone first, but man 2nd scheme. I doubt we see any stretch plays with the RB's on the current roster, but inside zone can work with this group.
__________________
El-Gonzo Jackson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to El-Gonzo Jackson For This Useful Post:
harrison'samonster (03-20-2013)
Old 03-21-2013, 06:57 AM   #3
Steeler7BR
Draft Prospect
 
Steeler7BR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 110
Member Number: 24703
Thanks: 25
Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
So funny, all of the cyber-GM's on this board were pencilling in an Alex Gibbs inspired zone block offense (when many are not sure what it really is) for the Steelers in Feb. Tomlin dispells the rumors in March.

So they are likely going to run some form of blocking scheme that employs combination blocks a the point of attack and then the one O lineman will scrape to the 2nd level to get the LB, similar to an inside zone system. Also, will keep elements of a power man scheme to try and pry open some running lanes.

I like it. Bicknell is likely showing some versatility and may run more of a Zone first, but man 2nd scheme. I doubt we see any stretch plays with the RB's on the current roster, but inside zone can work with this group.
Let's just say with our current Running Backs isn't much improvement to make. And to talk about a scheme without knowing our No.1 Running Back for next season is kind of unnecessary too.

Don't wanna knock you off their but until the draft we shouldn't worry about those type of things.
Steeler7BR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 07:32 AM   #4
steelfury02
Wing Kong Exchange - CEO
Supporter
 
steelfury02's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,760
Member Number: 6076
Thanks: 4,937
Thanked 4,474 Times in 2,125 Posts
My Mood: Fine
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

I'm not going to pretend I know what is going to work best or that I'm inside the minds of the coaches but I do know when I hear the word hybrid it means that you're good at a couple of things and great at nothing
__________________

Look into my eyes
SF Haters
steelfury02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 12:29 PM   #5
harrison'samonster
Living Legend
 
harrison'samonster's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Youngstown, OH
Posts: 7,764
Gender: Male
Member Number: 17630
Thanks: 60,046
Thanked 10,280 Times in 4,126 Posts
My Mood: Yeehaw
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

Steelfury, I don't know which would be better myself, I do know that if Bellichek announced he'd be going with a hybrid blocking scheme people on here would be proclaiming him a genius, and saying it will revolutionize the game.
__________________
If I ever get mad and leave the forum I'm going to make the best meltdown thread ever. there's gonna be beavers, and tyrannosaurus's and donuts and the cookie monster and everything
harrison'samonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 12:58 PM   #6
El-Gonzo Jackson
Living Legend
 
El-Gonzo Jackson's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 9,497
Member Number: 8264
Thanks: 420
Thanked 2,841 Times in 1,333 Posts
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by steelfury02 View Post
I'm not going to pretend I know what is going to work best or that I'm inside the minds of the coaches but I do know when I hear the word hybrid it means that you're good at a couple of things and great at nothing
I dont think so in this case. With inside zone blocking, you get to blocking the LB, by double teaming the down lineman and then sliding off 1 O Lineman to the 2nd level. With Man blocking, you block the LB's by assigning an OL to him and the other OL needs to get the down lineman.

In this case, its a bit like running play action so the defensive front 7 doesnt know if you are blocking Zone or blocking Man, in the run game.

I like it and even Russ Grimm used to mix in some ZBS with a primarily Man blocking system.
__________________
El-Gonzo Jackson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to El-Gonzo Jackson For This Useful Post:
harrison'samonster (03-21-2013), Hawaii 5-0 (03-21-2013), jacobo (03-21-2013), steelfury02 (03-21-2013)
Old 03-21-2013, 01:47 PM   #7
steelfury02
Wing Kong Exchange - CEO
Supporter
 
steelfury02's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,760
Member Number: 6076
Thanks: 4,937
Thanked 4,474 Times in 2,125 Posts
My Mood: Fine
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
I dont think so in this case. With inside zone blocking, you get to blocking the LB, by double teaming the down lineman and then sliding off 1 O Lineman to the 2nd level. With Man blocking, you block the LB's by assigning an OL to him and the other OL needs to get the down lineman.

In this case, its a bit like running play action so the defensive front 7 doesnt know if you are blocking Zone or blocking Man, in the run game.

I like it and even Russ Grimm used to mix in some ZBS with a primarily Man blocking system.
ok - I can understand / get on board with that
__________________

Look into my eyes
SF Haters
steelfury02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 04:36 PM   #8
TheVet
Assistant Coach
 
TheVet's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion! Snake Champion! Simon Champion! Speartoss 5 Shots Champion!
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,266
Member Number: 24040
Thanks: 424
Thanked 528 Times in 301 Posts
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

I don't care whether we go hybrid or mutant, we need to keep trying things until something works. Our OL has been an embarrassment for six or seven years now.
__________________

The black and gold ostrich of rebuilding denial.
TheVet is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to TheVet For This Useful Post:
Buddha Bus (03-21-2013), harrison'samonster (03-21-2013), Hawaii 5-0 (03-21-2013)
Old 03-21-2013, 05:00 PM   #9
Buddha Bus
Piss Monkey
Supporter
 
Buddha Bus's Avatar
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVet View Post
I don't care whether we go hybrid or mutant, we need to keep trying things until something works. Our OL has been an embarrassment for six or seven years now.


Ladies and gentlemen, your 2013 Pittsburgh Steelers starting offensive line!


__________________

I wave my private parts at your aunties, you heaving lot of second-hand electric donkey bottom biters.
Buddha Bus is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Buddha Bus For This Useful Post:
harrison'samonster (03-21-2013), jacobo (03-21-2013), steelfury02 (03-21-2013), TheVet (03-29-2013)
Old 03-21-2013, 05:10 PM   #10
harrison'samonster
Living Legend
 
harrison'samonster's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Youngstown, OH
Posts: 7,764
Gender: Male
Member Number: 17630
Thanks: 60,046
Thanked 10,280 Times in 4,126 Posts
My Mood: Yeehaw
Default Re: Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

that's an uncanny offensive line
__________________
If I ever get mad and leave the forum I'm going to make the best meltdown thread ever. there's gonna be beavers, and tyrannosaurus's and donuts and the cookie monster and everything
harrison'samonster is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to harrison'samonster For This Useful Post:
Buddha Bus (03-21-2013), steelfury02 (03-21-2013)
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.0.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Navbar with Avatar by Motorradforum
no new posts