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Old 04-09-2013, 04:20 PM   #1
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Default Paradox Problem

The problem is Todd Haley and our offensive scheme.

The Pittsburgh Steelers have a quarterback whose strength is to buy time for making big plays downfield (pretty effective considering the Superbowl appearances).

Todd Haley's offensive focus is attacking the first 5 yards past the line of scrimmage (effectively ending the play) instead of setting up and attacking downfield.

Unfortunately for whomever is using that type of offensive scheme, the NFL now has rules that support passing downfield more than any other phase of the game. This is why all the top quarterbacks with offensive coordinators were the best teams last year.

Even the "vomit" Batlimore "vomit" Ravens and their dildo for a QB, were able to excel because their passing game excelled the moment former Indianapolis QB then Head Coach, Jim Caldwell, took over from Cam Cameron. Jim's focus on dildo passing downfield and opening up the passing attack...were the #1 reason why Baltimore reached and won the Superbowl last year. This is also why Bruce Arians did so well in Indianapolis with a solid rookie QB. Both these guys were offensive passing guru's who focused on passing the ball and more importantly, passing downfield.

The paradox problem for the Steelers is this....

Drafting for Todd Haley's "five yards past the line of scrimmage" offense can really screw up this draft and the future of offense. Getting offensive skills players to fit a system that does not play to the strengths of our QB is...well...stupid.

But...not drafting Todd Haley players means the Steelers will continue to play underneath the higher more potent passing teams in the league.

This is why I hope that the Steelers focus hard on the defensive end of the ball to help minimize the damage that would occur in the long run by taking "Todd Haley' kind of players".
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Old 04-09-2013, 04:23 PM   #2
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i thought we doing pretty well until ben got hurt.....for the 500th time
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Default Re: Paradox Problem

like most paradoxes, yours is also an invalid argument, however, still important to the critical thinking and discussion that comes from the topic of Todd Haley's approach v. Ben's strengths that permeates 75% of the threads.

I think this is your opinion - a paradox statement. Well, that's just my opinion. And, damn I got myself messed up now - but, you get the point - well, maybe that's my opinion!
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i thought we doing pretty well until ben got hurt.....for the 500th time
They had three good games.... for the 1000th time.

The playoff games should've been an indication how behind the times the Steelers are when it comes to offensive philosophies, as well as the fact most of the playoff teams weren't even in the top 5 in time of possession. Baltimore was 30th if I recall.

It's not a grind-it-out-and-impose-your-will possession league anymore, it's a score often and score quickly league. No, that's not something the Steelers dictate, the NFL dictates that. If the Steelers continue to try and fight it, they'll continue to be mediocre.

But hey, Artie is always right!


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They had three good games.... for the 1000th time.

The playoff games should've been an indication how behind the times the Steelers are when it comes to offensive philosophies, as well as the fact most of the playoff teams weren't even in the top 5 in time of possession. Baltimore was 30th if I recall.

It's not a grind-it-out-and-impose-your-will possession league anymore, it's a score often and score quickly league. No, that's not something the Steelers dictate, the NFL dictates that. If the Steelers continue to try and fight it, they'll continue to be mediocre.

But hey, Artie is always right!


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I'll be honest I wasn't going to read your whole response. But then I did and I've got to say, I wish I hadn't bothered.
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I'll be honest I wasn't going to read your whole response. But then I did and I've got to say, I wish I hadn't bothered.
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Well, if we didn't get rid of...






...never mind.
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...never mind.
But Artie says you have to run the ball! It doesn't matter that the rest of the NFL is going in the opposite direction! Someone with the last name Rooney said something, so it must be right!
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nothing new will come from this thread - already decided it

Here's to you GoFor7 and our never-ending battle!
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Todd Haley's offensive focus is attacking the first 5 yards past the line of scrimmage (effectively ending the play) instead of setting up and attacking downfield.

Unfortunately for whomever is using that type of offensive scheme, the NFL now has rules that support passing downfield more than any other phase of the game. This is why all the top quarterbacks with offensive coordinators were the best teams last year.
Funny... I seem to remember a certain Haley-led offense in Arizona being pretty good a couple of years ago with a passable (pun intended) QB at the helm.

I mean, they were OK, but they didn't get to the Super B.... oh wait, nevermind.
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