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Old 04-17-2013, 11:01 PM   #1
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Smile 2nd Amendment Wins AGAIN!!!!

Read on my Facebook page that the background check shit that was in Congress was defeated!!!!

And Ovomit had a tantrum because it was. Anything that pisses him off makes me three times happier!!

Thank God, we won this one.

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it wasn't defeated. it was a bipartisan bill supported by the majority of people and it was never brought to a vote because of a filibuster.

And did you thank God that felons and the insane can still get guns without a method for weeding them out? That's right, God is ok with mental patients shooting people as long as they only fuck the opposite sex.
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Obama Loses It Over Gun Control Defeat

Childishness and demagoguery are a dangerous mix especially when exhibited by the President of the United States.

President Obama became unhinged following the defeat in the Senate of the universal background check bill put forth by Senators Pat Toomey and Joe Manchin.

Obama said, “All that happened today was the preservation of the loophole that lets dangerous criminals buy guns without a background check. That didn’t make our kids safer.”

Since when do dangerous criminals buy their guns from licensed dealers?

I mean even Dianne Feinstein admitted on the floor of the Senate that a universal background check would not have prevented Newtown.

But all that matters to Obama is that he didn’t get his way. Hell hath no fury like Obama scorned.

http://spectator.org/blog/2013/04/17...ver-gun-contro

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looks like it tried to outlaw the private sales of firearms

S.649

To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm
are listed in the national instant criminal background check system
and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other
purposes.

Subtitle B--Requiring a Background Check for Every Firearm Sale

SEC. 121. PURPOSE.

The purpose of this subtitle is to extend the Brady Law background check procedures to all sales and transfers of firearms.

SEC. 122. FIREARMS TRANSFERS.


``(t)(1) Beginning on the date that is 180 days after the date of enactment of the Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013, it shall be unlawful for any person who is not licensed under this chapter to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not licensed under this chapter, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm
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looks like it tried to outlaw the private sales of firearms

S.649

To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm
are listed in the national instant criminal background check system
and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other
purposes.

Subtitle B--Requiring a Background Check for Every Firearm Sale

SEC. 121. PURPOSE.

The purpose of this subtitle is to extend the Brady Law background check procedures to all sales and transfers of firearms.

SEC. 122. FIREARMS TRANSFERS.


``(t)(1) Beginning on the date that is 180 days after the date of enactment of the Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013, it shall be unlawful for any person who is not licensed under this chapter to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not licensed under this chapter, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...113s649pcs.pdf
''(f) EXCEPTIONS.--Unless prohibited by any other provision of law, subsections (b) and (c) shall not apply to any transfer of a firearm between an unlicensed transferor and unlicensed transferee, if--
(1) the transfer is a bona fide gift between immediate family members, including spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, and grandchildren;
(2) the transfer occurs by operation of law, or because of the death of another person for whom the unlicensed transferor is an executor or administrator of an estate or a trustee of a trust created in a will;
(3) the transfer is temporary and occurs while in the home of the unlicensed transferee, if--
(A) the unlicensed transferee is not otherwise prohibited from possessing firearms; and
(B) the unlicensed transferee believes that possession of the firearm is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to the unlicensed transferee; [H.R. 137, accessed 4/11/13]



The Gun Control Act of 1968 provides that persons "engaged in the business" of dealing in firearms must be licensed. Although Congress did not originally define the term "engaged in the business," it did so in 1986 as part of the McClure-Volkmer Act (also known as the "Firearms Owners' Protection Act"). That Act defined the term "engaged in the business," as applied to a firearms dealer, as "a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms."
Significantly, however, the term was defined to exclude a person who "makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms."
Consequently, unlicensed sellers may sell firearms without conducting background checks or documenting the transaction in any way. In addition, because federal law does not require private sellers to inspect a buyer's driver's license or any other identification, there is no obligation for such sellers to confirm that a buyer is of legal age to purchase a firearm. As a result, convicted felons, minors and other prohibited purchasers can easily buy guns from unlicensed sellers.
According to a 1999 report issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the current definition of "engaged in the business" often frustrates the prosecution of "unlicensed dealers masquerading as collectors or hobbyists but who are really trafficking firearms to felons or other prohibited persons." A June 2000 ATF report found that unlicensed sellers were involved in about a fifth of the trafficking investigations and associated with nearly 23,000 diverted guns. A national survey of firearm ownership conducted in 1994 determined that 60 percent of all firearm sales in the U.S. involved federally licensed dealers, while the remaining 40 percent of firearms were acquired from unlicensed sellers. [Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, accessed 4/11/13]
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The Second Amendment didn't "win", the NRA and the gun manufacturers they shill for did.
The "Gun Show Loophole" is the Sacred Cow of the gun industry because it's the only way that the manufacturers can sell their guns to the criminal market (since that's the only viable market left for them) and they protect it at any cost.

I don't know what's more sickening - the fact that the NRA/Gun makers run this country, or that the pro-gun people buy into their bullshit about "Big Brother" and confiscation and that they somehow think this "win" is a good thing.

The thing that actually "won" yesterday was FEAR.
Fear of reality and fear of the truth.

Anyone who is celebrating right now ought to be ashamed of themselves and if they have more than a few brain cells to rub together, they should stop and think about just exactly what it is that they're supporting.
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More than 3,500 deaths by guns since Newtown but so what as long as a certain type of republican gets off on defeating the President on anything. Screw society, this is about keeping score. Sure I don't know what happened during childhood to create people who think like that but one admires their consistency.
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90% support from people who supported it.

It died because the 90% figure is fictional.

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It a wonder when people go to gun shows how they make it out alive with all those guns killing people.
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