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Old 04-21-2013, 05:34 PM   #21
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What's Haley's history with the no huddle?
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:37 PM   #22
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All successful no huddles require one thing in a QB. Being cerebral. Asking Ben to do this often is akin to asking Kordell to throw more. Remember all those years we wondered why if defenses were stacking the box to stop the run so much...why not just air it out? Well, you just can't fit a square peg in a round hole. Why do people think Ben is all of a sudden capable of this? Is it based on his performance against prevent defenses run by poorer teams? The no huddle can work on occasion for the Steelers. Trying to be like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees who all can run it several times per game or for whole quarters is not going to happen. His skills lie elsewhere. Just like they can't hang tough in the pocket, and escape and make crazy plays...Ben can't run the no huddle like they can. If he was good at it, they'd be running it. Period. Calling for it and expecting that skill set to suddenly present itself after 8 years is an exercise in futility.
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All successful no huddles require one thing in a QB. Being cerebral. Asking Ben to do this often is akin to asking Kordell to throw more. Remember all those years we wondered why if defenses were stacking the box to stop the run so much...why not just air it out? Well, you just can't fit a square peg in a round hole. Why do people think Ben is all of a sudden capable of this? Is it based on his performance against prevent defenses run by poorer teams? The no huddle can work on occasion for the Steelers. Trying to be like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees who all can run it several times per game or for whole quarters is not going to happen. His skills lie elsewhere. Just like they can't hang tough in the pocket, and escape and make crazy plays...Ben can't run the no huddle like they can. If he was good at it, they'd be running it. Period. Calling for it and expecting that skill set to suddenly present itself after 8 years is an exercise in futility.
The problem is, there is no evidence to support your opinion at this time.
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All successful no huddles require one thing in a QB. Being cerebral. Asking Ben to do this often is akin to asking Kordell to throw more. Remember all those years we wondered why if defenses were stacking the box to stop the run so much...why not just air it out? Well, you just can't fit a square peg in a round hole. Why do people think Ben is all of a sudden capable of this? Is it based on his performance against prevent defenses run by poorer teams? The no huddle can work on occasion for the Steelers. Trying to be like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees who all can run it several times per game or for whole quarters is not going to happen. His skills lie elsewhere. Just like they can't hang tough in the pocket, and escape and make crazy plays...Ben can't run the no huddle like they can. If he was good at it, they'd be running it. Period. Calling for it and expecting that skill set to suddenly present itself after 8 years is an exercise in futility.
Except for, ya know, him asking for it.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...elers-nohuddle

I think he knows his own skillset and what he's capable of better than we do.
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Except for, ya know, him asking for it.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...elers-nohuddle

I think he knows his own skillset and what he's capable of better than we do.
That's a ridiculous statement. How dare you make that assumption!

Oh wait. That makes sense. He has a history of doing well at the end of halves or games when running it. What was I thinking?
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lets see whose on our team before we start making the gameplan
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All successful no huddles require one thing in a QB. Being cerebral. Asking Ben to do this often is akin to asking Kordell to throw more. Remember all those years we wondered why if defenses were stacking the box to stop the run so much...why not just air it out? Well, you just can't fit a square peg in a round hole. Why do people think Ben is all of a sudden capable of this? Is it based on his performance against prevent defenses run by poorer teams? The no huddle can work on occasion for the Steelers. Trying to be like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees who all can run it several times per game or for whole quarters is not going to happen. His skills lie elsewhere. Just like they can't hang tough in the pocket, and escape and make crazy plays...Ben can't run the no huddle like they can. If he was good at it, they'd be running it. Period. Calling for it and expecting that skill set to suddenly present itself after 8 years is an exercise in futility.
^ This guy just made a HELLUVA lot of sense. Better jump all over him and crush his opinion for daring to question the almighty Roethlisberger!

The comment Roethlisberger made about running more no-huddle was made in September of 2012 right at the beginning of the season. Guess what Roethlisberger's rating in the no-huddle offense was in 2011... 58.1 rating!!!

Yep! Better get Ben more no-huddle! It's what he wants!

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/05...passing-stats/

^^^ Hawaii 5-0 already posted this link on another thread but I can't make it fancy like he can.
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Except for, ya know, him asking for it.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...elers-nohuddle

I think he knows his own skillset and what he's capable of better than we do.
A lot of people don't know their own skillsets or limitations. This is especially true of people with large egos like professional athletes.

I posted a link to Roethlisberger's career no-huddle stats. He is better in a conventional play-calling structure.

Arians didn't let him call a lot of no-huddle either.

Roethlisberger's quote was as much to do with a pissing contest with Haley as anything else. Roethlisberger doesn't like anybody telling him what to do or which plays to run. The difference between Peyton Manning and Roethlisberger is Peyton earns the privilege of playcalling through countless hours of film study, being the first guy to show up to practice and last to leave etc. I could see Manning as a head coach after football can you see Roethlisberger in the same role?
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^ This guy just made a HELLUVA lot of sense. Better jump all over him and crush his opinion for daring to question the almighty Roethlisberger!

The comment Roethlisberger made about running more no-huddle was made in September of 2012 right at the beginning of the season. Guess what Roethlisberger's rating in the no-huddle offense was in 2011... 58.1 rating!!!

Yep! Better get Ben more no-huddle! It's what he wants!

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/05...passing-stats/

^^^ Hawaii 5-0 already posted this link on another thread but I can't make it fancy like he can.

this is how it started with ben and the gravy on thanksgiving to, took 3 years to get his weight back under control after that incident, let not let him OD on the no huddle, haven't we learned our lessons?
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